Before proceeding please see NOTE * below.

JEW™ A three letter word, that has been a ‘block of stumbling’ to the worlds understanding, since the 18th century. SEE  Also SEE   With many years of study, research and OBSERVATION I have found that, that word is part of a far reaching Diabolical Plot, and that word has been one of the most effective tools in achieving the Goals of those that want to bring about Global Despotism, aka. The N.W.O. In fact, that word, with all of it’s built in deceptions, led to the N.W.O.s Crowning Achievement, the State of ISRAEL!

The deception of the Gods Chosen Myth, has many destructive and damaging, ‘CALCULATED’ components, built into it. It is ‘damaging’ to Christians, because they are Blessing the very evil that seeks to destroy Christianity and bring about the N.W.O. Their shame will be upon them! 1 John 2:22- 23 tells us how to Identify anti-Christs and 2 John 10-11 tells us how we are to deal with them! A VERY ‘destructive’ component is, for those seeking God, and the Truth, and the unbelievers, that have bought into that MYTH that the Jews represent those who wrote the Bible. And so, by the actions and behavior of the Jews in the world, and in their dealing with ‘WE’ the goyim, so many have, sadly, rejected the God of the Bible and Jesus Christ! It is through History, the Bible and your Observations, that may cause you to see, that the JEWS are indeed what JESUS said of them, that they are of their Father the Devil!  My greatest hope, that from this essay, is that those, that have been disgusted by the JEWS, rightly so, will see the truth, and come to the saving KNOWLEDGE of JESUS The CHRIST!

It is built into that MYTH that they, the Jews, are ISRAEL, and so, the world is told that one day, they will accept Jesus, and God will then call them the Sons of the Living GOD. But as you will learn, that will not happen!

EDOM: Esau/Jacob An Archetype?

You will see, If you are honest, that some of the names that describe Edom, “Adversary, Accuser, Antichrist, Deceiver, Enemy, Imitator, Impostor, Liar, (genocidal) Murder, Serpent, Thief”, are also Names of SATAN!

As we should know, from the beginning, there was a ‘struggle’ between the twin brother’s, even in the womb. And that struggle has never ended! We know too, that EDOM sold his ‘birthright’ for a bowl of beans.

What is not known by most, is that EDOM is the most condemned people in the Bible! And that when the Bible speaks of ISRAEL’S enemy, in most case’s, that enemy is Edom. And what the Bible says about his actions and behavior, and what God has Judged for Edom’s End, is very important to understand. Just as ISRAEL are a people today, and still among the Nations, Edom also is still among US!

Selling his birthright was the first, of what would be a series of errors that would reveal his true NATURE! Not only did he have no interest in HIS birthright, he lacked the basic senses of LOYALTY, COMPASSION, and FAITH! AS a hunter, he was concerned with the ‘NOW’! Jacob on the other hand, was a man that understood those qualities. He was more concerned with pleasing his FATHER. He was a tiller of the earth. And with patients, knowing that his reward was to be realized at the HARVEST, he remained loyal, with compassion and FAITH, that his father was able to reward him!

Esau’s wives and Sons. Genesis 36:2-5
Esau was foolish in marrying two wives of the Canaanites, strangers to the blessing of Abraham, and subject to the curse of Noah. It grieved his parents that he married without their advice and consent. It grieved them that he married among those who had no religion. The Son’s of Noah had wives when they boarded the Ark, and it would seem that HAMS wife was of CAIN.
Gen. 26:34-35 ”And Esau, was forty years old when he took to wife Judith the daughter of Beeri the Hittite, and Bashemath the daughter of Elon the Hittite:
Which were a grief of mind unto Isaac and to Rebekah.”

I will add here that, race is a very important component in the Grand Picture! Christ was foretold in the book of Genesis, and was to come through ADAM! From Adam to Noah the genetic blood line was still pure, but facing extinction, so God brought the flood and preserved the seed of Adam through Noah’s Son SHEM. It is through Shem that we get SEMITIC. The bloodline still being important, God, because of Abraham’s FAITH, made a BLOOD COVENANT with Abraham and his seed that the world would be blessed through JUDAH, one son of JACOB, to David, to Jesus THE Christ. ISRAEL also blessed the world in their, Evangelism,  Missionary Enterprises,  Philanthropy, Commerce, Wealth and Technology etc. as those ‘marks‘ said of ISRAEL. And the Blood Line is still very important today! If you read in Revelations there will be one hundred and forty-four-thousand of the twelve tribes of Israel (not JEWS), that have been redeemed from mankind as first fruits for God and the Lamb!

God hates EDOM!  …”The people against whom the Lord hath indignation for ever”…

ISRAEL was told not to abuse nor TAKE anything from Edom, but they could buy food and water from them. Deuteronomy 2:2-6  and 23:7 Nevertheless, Edom was not very brotherly!

We find in many place’s in the Bible were Edom dealt treacherously with his brother JACOB. In Obadiah we read, …”10 For thy violence against thy brother Jacob shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off for ever”…
In Ezekiel 25:12 we are told WHY God hates Edom. These prophecies in Ezekiel 25 are against various nations as a result of their ‘actions’. In  Zephaniah 2:5-10 we find more of the same.
Ammonites and Moabite’s are the incestuous sons of LOT with his daughter’s.
The Philistines, were from Mizraim a son of Ham.
The Cherethims it appears were descendants of, or related to the Canaanites, also of HAM. (See NOTE ** below)
EDOM is named among people that the Lord God said he was going to deal harshly with! Partly because of how they dealt with Gods People, ISRAEL


The Book of OBADIAH foretells of Edoms impersonation and utter destruction, and that God will use JACOB and JOSEPH to bring that about!
Obadiah is a very short book that says a lot!

Obadiah 1: 2
Behold, I have made thee small among the heathen: thou art greatly despised.
(What people are small and despised as the JEWS are? Surely this is not about the PYGMIES)

3-4 The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground? Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the Lord. (Vrs. 3-4 tells us that they have laid claim “EXALTED” to something that they are not. STARS are symbolic of ISRAEL)

5-7 If thieves came to thee, if robbers by night, (how art thou cut off!) would they not have stolen till they had enough? if the grapegatherers came to thee, would they not leave some grapes? How are the things of Esau searched out! how are his hidden things sought up! All the men of thy confederacy have brought thee even to the border: the men that were at peace with thee have deceived thee, and prevailed against thee; they that eat thy bread have laid a wound under thee: there is none understanding in him.
( “thy confederacy” are those Nation in the West, America and Europe, and all of those that have been deceived by the Gods Chosen™ lie and have unwittingly helped Edom establish the N.W.O. At some point, the west will turn on EDOM! I believe that wont happen until the world turns on us, TRUE ISRAEL! Also notice, “they that eat thy bread” is talking about KNOWLEDGE! See note *** below)

18 And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be any remaining of the house of Esau; for the LORD hath spoken it.
( Edom, being the Physical Manifestation of Satan on the Earth, all that remains is for Jesus Christ to finish up with SATAN!  SO, are JACOB/EDOM, Archetype’s like JESUS/SATAN )

In Malachi 1:1-4, the prophet reveals the activities of the Edomites in the latter days in reference to their false Zionism:

1 The burden of the word of the Lord to ISRAEL by Malachi.
2 I have loved you, saith the Lord. Yet ye (Israel) say, wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau (Edom) Jacob’s brother? saith the Lord; yet I loved Jacob.
3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.
4 Whereas Edom saith, we are impoverished, but we will return and rebuild the desolate places: thus saith the Lord of hosts, they (Edom) shall build, but I will throw down; and they (Israel) shall call them (Edom) the border of wickedness, and the people against whom the Lord hath indignation forever.”

We can see from this passage, that God had laid Esau’s mountain (nation) and heritage waste and had given the birthright to Jacob (Israel). But Esau rebelled against God and vowed to return to Palestine and rebuild. God’s verdict is that He will allow the Edomites to rebuild for a season, but eventually He would “throw down” that which they have built.

Another Old Testament prophet who speaks of Edom in the latter days is Ezekiel. Chapters 35 and 36 speak about the bloody characteristics of the Edomites, their envy and hatred of Jacob for being chosen of God (35:5-15) and their burning desire to possess Palestine, and their END!

Ezekiel 35:10 “Because thou (Edom) hast said, these two nations (Israel and Judah) and these two countries shall be mine, and we will possess it; whereas the Lord was there

Ezekiel 36:2 “Thus, saith the Lord: Because the enemy (Edom) hath said against you (Israel), Aha, even the ancient high places (centers of Baal worship) are ours in possession

Could it be, that these …”centers of Baal worship”… are the motivational force guiding these so called ‘ELITE’? Could there be something they want in IRAN? Hitler had great interest in the treasures of the Ancient Kingdoms.


In the Book of ESTHER we see that Haman, a descendant of Edom, Accusing and seeking to commit Genocide of the Remnant of JUDAH, But in the end, the King relented, and authorized JUDAH to destroy those of Haman!

Esther 3:8-10 And Haman said unto king Ahasuerus, There is a certain people scattered abroad and dispersed among the people in all the provinces of thy kingdom; and their laws are diverse from all people; neither keep they the king’s laws: therefore it is not for the king’s profit to suffer them. If it please the king, let it be written that they may be destroyed: and I will pay ten thousand talents of silver to the hands of those that have the charge of the business, to bring it into the king’s treasuries. And the king took his ring from his hand, and gave it unto Haman the son of Hammedatha the Agagite, the Jews’
(That is JUDAHITE’S)  enemy.

And in Esther chapter 8 we see that the King relented, and before the day appointed for the massacre, Esther and Mordecai influenced the king to put Haman to death and to give the Jews (JUDAHITES) the right of self-Defense.

Esther 8:17 “And in every province, and in every city, whithersoever the king’s commandment and his decree came, the Jews had joy and gladness, a feast and a good day. And many of the people of the land became Jews; for the fear of the Jews fell upon them”… (WE see here that Hamans people, for fear of the Remnant of Judah, became Judahites to prevent their deaths)

Only Haman, the arch villain in the Book of Esther, is called an Agagite (Esther 3:1). Agagite is probably a synonym for Amalekite the Grandson of Esau/Edom

EDOM in the Apocryphal Books

Michael Hoffman II in “Bible Wars – The Conspiracy Against the Douay Rheims Vulgate and the Geneva Apocrypha.” says, in essence, that the books of the Apocrypha were removed because they gave us (JACOB) the keys to defeating EDOM! I have not read them, only excerpts from them.

William F. Dankenbring sums it up for us like this;
According to prophecy, this “rivalry” was to characterize the ongoing relationships of these two people throughout historical time. Finally, the “age of Esau” will be replaced by the “age of Jacob” or “Israel.”The book II Esdras in the Apocrypha speaks of this prophecy: ‘What will mark the parting of the times? Or when will the end of the first or the beginning of the second be?’

“And he said to me, ‘From Abraham to Abraham, for from him sprang Jacob and Esau, but Jacob’s hand held Esau’s heel from the beginning. For ESAU IS THE END OF THIS AGE, AND JACOB IS THE BEGINNING OF THE ONE THAT FOLLOWS. For the beginning of a man is his hand, and the end of a man is his heel” (II Esdras 6:7-10).

According to the book of Jasher, Edom’s connection with Babylon started with Esau’s desire to obtain “the valuable garments of Nimrod, with which Nimrod prevailed over the whole land” (Jasher 27:10). Nimrod (HAM’S descendant) was the first tyrant or king over Babylon, the first one after the Flood to establish a “kingdom” and that Kingdom was the first ‘spirit’ of the N.W.O. (Gen.10:9-10). According to the book of Jasher, Esau actually is the one who killed Nimrod and “fought a desperate fight,” with two of his aides and killed them, and then fled with Nimrod’s garments. Did his garments hold some occult power, and did Edom know that? ‘Nimrod’ means “rebellion” or “he rebelled,” from the Hebrew word ‘marad’.

When he killed Nimrod, and took his garments, Esau usurped the spiritual essence of the N.W.O. and that of Nimrod and his Babylonian rule, and became a son of Cain through marriage and usurpation. Edom is a USURPER! Also note, what people is it mostly, that have gained control of our Foreign AND Domestic Policies, and have turned the world against us, and made us Modern BABYLON?

EDOM in History.
The following from an interesting man, Rodger Hathaway. http://www.divinepageant.com/
…”An incredibly great fraud has influenced many Christians to believe that today’s Jews are the actual descendants from Jacob/Israel. They are NOT! Today’s Jews are direct descendants of Esau/Edom. It is this very fraud to which Jesus   speaks in Revelation 2:9 and 3:9, saying, “I know the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.” The word Jew came first from Judah, a son of Jacob/Israel, Esau’s brother. Esau can’t be a true  Judahite Jew. But, the Edomites became Judeans because they lived in Judea, so  they became known as Jews. which they still are today.

If one follows the courses of races in the Bible, one sees that Esau joined with the evil race of Cain. The enmity and hatred of Cain toward Abel was renewed   with that war of Esau against Jacob, and continues today as the war of the
Edomite Jews against white-race Christians, who are Jacob.

When Jesus says that the Jews are the “synagogue of Satan,” He is continuing His indictment of them which he clearly stated in John 8 when He told them that  God is not their father, but that they were murderers and liars, out of their father, the Devil, whose very nature is to lie. It was Jesus’ attempt to expose  the Jews  for their fraud that got Jesus killed.

For us today, we must be reminded that it was the race of Edom which Rome   expelled from Palestine in 70 A.D.; who migrated to Spain (becoming Sephardim)   and to eastern Russia (Khazaria & later becoming Ashkenaz). . Those so-called   Jews exploited Europe through the centuries and were many times expelled from European countries. It was those Jews who manipulated King George to exact outrageous taxation on the new American colonies, along with forcing the King to conduct a slave-trade which the colonists did not want. The King was trying to pay off a tremendous usurious debt to the Jew banks by squeezing the Christians of this new land”…
(I am adding this paragraph on March 17, 2013 because it needs to be understood. The assertion that the sons of Japheth known as ASHKENAZIM make up 90% of the so called JEWS is problematic. They do not possess the ‘genetic code’ that the sons of CAIN and EDOM possess that makes them hate God or the Sons of ISRAEL. There is NOT even a hint in scripture that the Ashkenazi are impersonating the sons of JACOB! The “Ashkenazi” claim is another one of EDOMS FABLES!)

And this from: American Patriot Friends Network  here
…”In an article on “Edom”, the Jewish Encyclopedia (1925 edition), has this statement:
“(In 163BC) Judas Maccabeus conquered their territory for a time. They were again subdued by John Hyrcanus (about 125 BC), by whom they were forced to observe Jewish rites and laws. They were then incorporated with the Jewish nation, and their country was called by the Greeks and Romans, “Idumea.” With Antipater began the Idumean dynasty that ruled over Judea till its conquest by the Romans …From this time the Idumeans ceased to be a separate people”…
So a hundred years before Christ, Judah was inhabited by Edomites and native Israelites who were both followers of Talmudic Judaism, seeming to heal the breach between Jacob and Esau. But the Edomites proved to be a discordant element. And in 37BC, Herod the Great (74-4BC), an Idumean or Edomite whose wife Mariamne was a Maccabean, became at the age of 36, undisputed ruler of Judea. The Pharisees gained ascendancy over the Sadducees, and there were so many Edomites in the population at the time of Christ that the land was called Idumea (Mark 3:8).
The Edomites participated in the defense of Jerusalem against the Romans during Titus’ siege (AD66-70). According to The Jewish Encyclopedia (1904, Vol. V, p 41), “Immediately before the siege of Jerusalem 20,000 Idumeans appeared before Jerusalem to fight in behalf of the Zealots who were besieged in the Temple”. More than a million inhabitants of Judea died and 97,000 were taken captive. An unknown number had fled either before or during the siege”…

…”What is fascinating is that this is the last mention in history of the Edomites as a people. Yet Bible prophecy indicates that Edom would be an enemy of Israel in the latter days, and we find that their only connection to a present-day people and religion is with the so-called Jews and Rabbinism, or Judaism. As the Edomites are accursed of God, we may assume their disappearance from historical records was intentional, for we see that they stole or assumed the identity of another race. An interesting observation is that the policy of the Illuminati is always to act under another name and a different occupation. So in order to find out who and where these Edomites are today, we must discover who the Jews are today”…

This added 3/31/13
Israel Jacob Yuval
TWO Nations in Your Womb:Perceptions of Jews and Christians in Late Antiquity and the Middle Ages

Page 14 CH. 1 introduction

…”Iranaeus’s typological move is clearly continued by the Church Fathers of the third centry- Cyprian, Origen, and Tertullian. The Christians countered the Jewish equation: Jacob = Jews, Esau = Rome, with the opposite equation: Jacob = Christian, Esau = Jews. It is noteworthy that these parallel systems of idenification emerged at the same time”… P 15 …” What led Jews in the second century C.E. to consider Rome a “brother?” What did such a kinship have to do with the dreary Destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple?”…

Psalm 137:7 Remember, O Lord, the children of Edom in the day of Jerusalem; who said, Rase it, rase it, even to the foundation thereof.

…” What led Jews in the second century C.E. to consider Rome a “brother?”… They were of EDOM and had control of Jerusalem in Jesus’ day and TODAY! Edom had perverted the Remnant of JUDAH with their Babylonian Talmud and defiled the Temple! EDOM brought on the Roman Destruction of Jerusalem because as we see, EDOM (JEWS) are intolerable where ever they are found!

Edom Identification With Rome | RM.com ®

At the end of the tannaitic period, and still more in the amoraic, the identification became very widespread, and the overwhelming majority of homilies about Edom speak explicitly of Rome. Thus it was stated that Rome was founded by the children of Esau, and Rome was identified as one of the cities of the chiefs of Esau enumerated at the end of Genesis 36 (these identifications occur not only in the Midrashim and the Talmuds but also in the Palestinian *Targums of the Torah and in the Targums to Lamentations and Esther). At a still later period the term became a synonym for Christian Rome and thence for Christianity in general, and allusions were even found to *Constantinople among the cities of Edom (and see *Caesarea).
Jewish Virtual Library – EDOM
Click on …”Every Crime Scene has the Criminals”… Edom-Rome Fingerprints http://www.eliyahuarrival.com

I had thought for years that EDOM created the Catholic Church, because “if it walks like a duck, it must be a duck”. I may be correct. EDOM (REV. 2:9 JEWS) created the VATICAN

The PEOPLE of Jesus day, and Jesus himself, knew who those Edomites were. JESUS said this of those Impostors;

Matthew 23:31-33 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

S.C. 1081 GREEK ‘gennēma’ is Greek for ‘generation’
1) that which has been born or begotten

a) the offspring or progeny of men or animals.

Rev. 3:9 I understood for years, but about three weeks ago, for an article I am working on, I did something that I had neglected to do for many years, thinking I KNEW, I looked up the word “blasphemy” and researched a bit and found that blasphemy is used in two ways. It can be applied to GOD, or PEOPLE!

1) slander, detraction, speech injurious, to another’s good name
2) impious and reproachful speech injurious to divine majesty

Revelation 2:9-10 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

Revelation 2:9-10 blasphemy; (speech injurious, to another’s good name) and then in verse 10 is that talking about the “NOAHIDE LAWS“?

Rev. 3:9, “Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee”…
Whose feet are they? WHO Did God say he loved? Abraham? Isaac? Jacob? YES, and in ROMANS 9:13 “As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.” Malachi 1:3 and OBADIAH!!! The world was blessed through Judah, and the house of David. All of the other blessings were for all 12 Tribes of Israel (Jacob) So who are those that have exalted themselves (OBADIAH) and claim to be Jews. Whose feet are they?

Isaiah 60:14 …”The sons also of them that afflicted thee shall come bending unto thee; and all they that despised thee shall bow themselves down at the soles of thy feet”… THAT IS EDOM!!

I think we see HERE some very good clues! Some of the damage that is done through EDOMS impersonation of True Israel I listed above, and the impostors in Rev. 3:9 can ONLY be EDOM!


In the Book of JOB, I discovered something I had over looked! It appears that “Eliphaz the Temanite” in JOB 2:11 was a son of Esau/EDOM, and was the main “earthly” accuser of JOB.

Herod an Edomite, Satanically inspired to commit INFANTICIDE on JUDEA’S Children under two years old to prevent Messiah!

The Edomite’s accuse Jesus;
1. He is a friend of publicans and sinners; he receives the ungodly and even eats with them.
2. He is a blasphemer; he talks about God as being his Father and thinks he is equal with God.
3. He is a lawbreaker. He heals disease on the Sabbath and in many other ways flouts the sacred law of Israel.
4. He is in league with devils. He works wonders and does seeming miracles by the power of Beelzebub, the prince of devils.

In Luke 23:1-2 are what the charges were that the Edomite’s brought to the Romans! First, that Jesus agitated sedition.   Second, they said that he encouraged people to not pay taxes to Caesar.  And third, he assumed the title king. In so many words they falsely accused him of rebellion and insurrection

The “Red Sea” is so-named after ‘Edom’. Mayer Amschel Bauer honored his father Esau by changing his family name to “Rothschild”, or “Red Shield”. The founder of the House of Rothschild drew up plans for the creation of the Illuminati and one world government, entrusting Adam Weishaupt with its organization and development.

Also check out,
Eustace Mullins – The Curse Of Canaan; A Demonology Of History (1987)


If you made it this far God Bless you, and thank you! With so many lies to disspell, I had to make this post so massive.
But this is not all there is!

II TIMOTHY 2:15 “Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth”…
The word “DIVIDING” S.C. Greek 3718 “orthotomeo” to make straight, cut, to DISSECT!

I have provided LINKS to biblegateway.com a SIMPLE and quick KJV, and
blueletterbible.org/ in the LINK window at the top of the page.

This is an easy to use Strong’s Concordance S.C. I recommend a hard copy 1980 or older, because I have found MANY “changes” in this on-line version, it is great for finding a ‘verse’ by typing in a ‘KEY’ words, but I have found to many errors and omissions.
The meaning for the words JUDAH and JUDEAN have been “altered” to “FIT” the modern misuse of the word JEW. Jew is the ‘bastardization’ of the word JUDAH/JUDEAN. The simple addition of the word, ‘JEWISH’ is a perversion of the Original TEXT. The addition and use of the word ‘JEW’ is for confusion and deception, as with word GENTILE is too!

In the Old Testament the Hebrew word is; S.C. 3063 “Yehuwdah” …”The name of Five Israeli Also of the tribe descended from the first, and of its territory: Judah”…
S.C. 3064 “Yehuwdiy ‘patron from 3063; a Jehudite (i.e. Judaite or Jew), or desc. of Jehudah (i.e. Judah):-Jew

In the NEW Testament it is. JEW (The word Jew  mentioned in.John 4:22 …”for Salvation is of the Jews”… is RIGHTLY translated from the GREEK S.C. 2453 it is; “Ioudaios”, pronounced ee-oo-dah-yos and means …”JUDEAN; AS A COUNTRY i.e.belonging to Judea”…
THAT is ALL that is found in the Strong’s Concordance from 1980. Nothing omitted and nothing added! Also, Jew has never applied to Israel in the Bible.
ALSO S.C. 2453 in my Hard Copy shows it is ‘FROM’ S.C. 2448 and 2455.

As used in Matthew 2:6 S.C. 2448 “Iouda” Judah = “he shall be praised”
the fourth son of the patriarch Jacob
the tribe that were the offspring of Judah
the region occupied by the tribe
a city of the tribe of Judah,….

As used in Hebrews 7:14 S.C. 2455 “Ioudas” Judah or Judas = “he shall be praised”

the fourth son of Jacob
an unknown ancestor of Christ…..

GENTILE: That word Gentile, defied translation? Does a Latin word Gentile, belong in a English translation of a Hebrew TEXT?  Gentile is found in both the Old and New Testament. THOSE words, Gentile and Jew are there for the purpose of DEPICTION , CONFUSION !

“GENTILE”: Hebrew 1471 “gowy/goy” “a foreign nation or Nation, People” ALSO “troop of animals”… Note: GOY is what the so called JEWS call us using the ANIMALS definition.
Greek 1484 “ethnos” Nation, People. Note: “ethnos” is where we get “ETHNIC”

The publishing house’s, controlled by the Rothschilds and the Illuminati, along with their MASONIC MINIONS in the Seminaries and Church’s have perpetrated many evil frauds, that have allowed them to operate, undetected, out in the open! SEE FRITZ SPRINGMEIER


Even in my Hard Copy I have found a FEW, errors. i.e. for “JUDITH” S.C. 3067 Jewess; Jehudith a Canaanitiess: Judith”…
Jew comes from JUDAH and he had not been born yet! So she could not be a ‘Jewess’. So was Mr. Strong working on some preconceived IDEAS?

Blue Letter
6213-Esau = “hairy”
1) …progenitor of the Arab peoples…
WE KNOW Ishmael is the father of the ARABS

pre- 1981 the correct rendering;
S.C. 6215 …in the sense of handling; rough (i.e. sensibly felt)

In conclusion, these “ERRORS” can hinder our full understanding! That is why WE should rely on, “Study, Research, and OBSERVATION.”

The Word JEW is a creation of EDOM, so I say it is ‘Trade Marked”  ™
And JESUS said, …”My sheep hear My voice”… I believe that most ALL of JUDAH that remained in the land in Jesus’ day ‘HEARD’ and believed!
At minimum, 85% of Jews are not Semitic in the sense of being of Israel, but are a mixture of Semitic through Esau and their many wives of Canaan bloodlines.


There just is not much information about the Philistines and the Cherethites.
I found these items;

“The combined phrase Cherethites and Pelethites  is only used by the Bible to refer to a group of elite mercenaries in the employ of King David, some of whom acted as his bodyguards, and others as part of his army”.
Ezk. 25:16 “I will stretch out mine hand upon the Philistines, and I will cut off the Cherethim,”… Leads my to believe they are one in the same or related

2 Samuel 20:7 There went out after him Joab’s men, and the Cherethites and the Pelethites, and all the mighty men; and they went out of Jerusalem, to pursue after Sheba the son of Bichri…

And where you see Amalek, they are the grandson of EDOM.

NOTE ***


Ezekiel 3:1-4 Moreover he said unto me, Son of man, eat that thou findest; eat this roll, and go speak unto the house of Israel. So I opened my mouth, and he caused me to eat that roll. And he said unto me, Son of man, cause thy belly to eat, and fill thy bowels with this roll that I give thee. Then did I eat it; and it was in my mouth as honey for sweetness. And he said unto me, Son of man, go, get thee unto the house of Israel, and speak with my words unto them.

John 6:47-51 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life. I am that bread of life. Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead. This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die. I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

John 6:57-58 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me. This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.

SO knowledge can be Eaten, and called Bread

From one commentary;
“The issue is the symbolic nature of bread as the fruit of our knowledge. It is the idea of bread as knowledge and the idea of leaven as the spirit within that knowledge that matters. It is not the physical nature of bread that can be counted that matters”.

And that is true with II Thessalonians 3:9-12

I am in no way a Hebrew Scholar, but I understand that there are various ‘inflections’ in the Hebrew Language that lend to, or broaden the meanings of different words. Also, in the Hebrew, many words have more than one meaning, and I have found the need to look at the words used in association with the word I am trying to get the definition of, to gain the correct meaning.

QAL and NIPHAL verbs were very simple, but the opposite is true with Piel and Pual verbs.  They are extremely difficult even for the advanced scholar.  The dictionary will determine how the word is used. QAL/NIPHAL ACTIVE/PASSIVE  Verbs

Hebrew S.C. 398 ‘akal’

1) to eat, devour, burn up, feed
a) (Qal)
1) to eat (human subject)
2) to eat, devour (of beasts and birds)
3) to devour, consume (of fire)
4) to devour, slay (of sword)
5) to devour, consume, destroy (inanimate subjects – ie, pestilence, drought)
6) to devour (of oppression)
b) (Niphal)
1) to be eaten (by men)
2) to be devoured, consumed (of fire)
3) to be wasted, destroyed (of flesh)
c) (Pual)
1) to cause to eat, feed with
2) to cause to devour
d) (Hiphil)
1) to feed
2) to cause to eat
e) (Piel)
1) consume

ALL of those notes are to help those who have a serious interest in the truth, and to show that I have no intent of trickery!
Also, for the willing ignorant Christian Zionist’s, who think they are on Gods side, by supporting the State of Israel! By this POST, there is no room for the charge of ADDING to, or TWISTING, or OMITTING from scripture!
If I have made any ERRORS, please show them to me!


135 thoughts on “EDOM: THE STORY Of JACOB AND ESAU Is Not Just A Story.

  1. AABudimir

    thx u so much for this long Blog. i too hav come around years ago. t church filled lies. y wood God tell us he hated Esau fr t womb yet preachers tell us 2 love r enemies? bcuz we r suppose 2 lov r neighbors, NOT other races, halfbreeds, mongrels. we were never suppose 2 liv w others, only welcome t “visitor” but if he disparaged r laws & ways, we were 2 take him 2 t gates of r land & expell him. grieve r people, he was 2 b killed. God hated Esau fr t womb. Cain & Able were twins! She continued 2 bear! Twins! Adam didnt know his wife til 2nd chapter. 1st chpt Genisis, God turned Satan & his people into Serpents. ask urself. Y t hell wood God create dinasaurs, terryifing beasts mostly? look at a deer, or kitten w mom. now allegater. makes no sense! their were giants in those days! Nephilem. 1/2 human,w taste 4 blood. Demons r their dead spirits! i had ephiany. Dinosaurs or “dragons” walked w man. plenty fossil proof. & devoured us! look at ancient Mauan paintings. bloodlusts. Dragons still alive but “in & under” t earth as bible says. fear 1 day will so overcome men they shall die of it! Dragons 20″ & more high wil come from t earth like locusts & people wil drop dead of fear! understandably when their reality is shaken. theyre refusal 2 seek knowledge wil destroy them! soon people-please read careful Hosea. t crescent moon of Muslim is new moon. they r in Ephram. Europe. they r being raped & destroyed by Muslims & still refuse 2 seek God. still think their brains can straighten out problem while still wooing their muslim lovers 4 oil & spices. Rome canabilizes & makes sacrifices of their children. their temples & mosques & vatican steeples worship Baal & not t living God. they wil b forever destroyed if they dont repent. USA & Australia is Manassah. watch & learn. seek God or prepare 4 r own destruction. we were never 2 mix w t races, or woo them, or take council from. only prayer 2 our Lord God. love this blog, excellent effort & work. will come here again 2 see if any mor of r white family has repented+prayed.

    1. EDOMS THORN Post author

      Scripture tells to love our “Brother”. Our enemy is not Gods enemy, but Gods enemy is OUR enemy. And those impostors and murderers that call themselves Jews are Gods enemy FOREVER!

  2. Jason Henry

    Hello, was testing this to make sure post was still accepting comments. I just got off work and read this site a few days ago. I was looking for who the last TRUE Judahite king was before the Edomite Jews stole the House of Judah, now all of Israel to the present day. They call use anti everything, a thought crime for seeking truth in a day our men and women go to useless wars in the middle east for the sole purpose of benefiting the state of Isn’treal. These Edomite Jews, which are now so mongrelized in every race, Ashkenazi/Khazars, Sephardic Moors, etc. Heck, they are looking more like the Germanic Europeans, us, all the time as they inject their satanic seed of Cain into the Adamic race and its white Hebrew subset, and the further subset of True Israelite descendants, all of which are the peoples of Ancient Greece, not Edomite Rome, and later the Germanic tribes throughout Europe and America. Although Adamites, Hebrews, and TRUE Israelites, including the few remaining pure white TRUE Judahites that came back to their brothers and sisters of the other tribes before and shortly after our King, Jesus Christ, came to Earth to accept the sceptre of Judah, The Adamics, Hebrews, and Israelites have pretty much intermarried, which is good, as Adam was of pure white stock on through Shem, I believe their are a few Hebrews and a smaller amount of True Israelites that walk this Earth today and the mongrel heard of Cain’s Edomite Jews probably know who each and every one of them, I would like to believe I am one but none of us know for sure, and the Edomite will soon exterminate the pure Hebrews and Israelites before moving on to destroy the Adamics mixed with Hebrews and Israelites. The Edomites, through our technology, as well as their exhaustive Talmudic bullshit record keeping are very likely to be able to identify certain physical characteristics of pure Hebrews and Israelites, who they have venomous hatred for the most, as God implanted the spirit of Himself in them and probably gave them attributes the jews have known for over 2000 years. I think men like you have to come from Israelite stock as you know the truth and speak it. This makes since because Jesus/God would have known that He would have to keep some of His stock completely of Israelite heritage to speak the truth in these times of Jacob’s trouble so that true Christians might start reading their Bibles instead of listening to the lard ads Hagee’s sacrilege of twisting the Bible and telling people that they are damned if the don’t support and love and die for satan’s children who have usurped the title of Israel, and calling themselves jews, which Jesus Christ never called Himself a new, He was a pure Judahite through Mary, Nathan, and David. I love how these jewish identity theives have named their snotty hateful kids Hebrew and Israelite names even going so far as using surnames, such as Cohen, Levy, etc., to try to fool us. Heck, Aron had died hundreds of years prior to any recorded use of the last name Cohen. Further, Hebrews and Israelites never used paternal names as are used today. How have white Christians been so blind. I guess by not reading their Bibles. Even the jew corrupted Masoretic text still gives us enough truth to know the truth, but the Bibles are being manipulated more and more to full the ignorant among us from ever knowing the truth if too many more years go by with more deceptive translations of the Masoretic texts hitting the bookshelves. These diabolical insane jews have been plotting this out since the days of our Lord Jesus Christ who Himself called these imposters out. These jews have had to change strategies like satan does over the many centuries, but their age old plan of ruling the planet is terrifyingly coming close if something does not give, they are close to amalgamating the white race of God with the earlier created races and later half breeds. I believe Jesus Christ will have to impart His spirit to awaken our people, so we are saved from doom or our children our saved from doom. Well, keep up the good work and know that myself and a few others are doing so too in order for our children to be able to know Jesus Christ and His real message before satan’s jews annialate us or put us into slavery where the message of Jesus Christ will be outlawed and eventually forgotten.

    1. EDOMS THORN Post author

      Thank you for your efforts! WE (Israel) are under attack, and that is how it was foretold by the Messiah…

      Matthew 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.

      Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect’s sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

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  4. Elle

    The book of Esther is an evil book. The fact that it never mentions God or gives thanks to God should raise a red flag. Watch these videos for a better understanding:

    You had also said that you don’t believe the Ashkenazi are Edomites or something along those lines. I don’t agree. Read this link from a Black Hebrew Israelite site, don”t let that deter you. It has to do with God “enlarging” Japheth.

    Also read this quote:
    “As admitted by even Jewish authorities, the Jews are primarily descended from an ancient tribe known as the “Edomites.” It is well documented that approximately 90-95% of modern-day Jews are descended from a tribe known as the “Khazars”, who converted to Judaism in the 8th and 9th centuries A.D. while living in what is now southern Russia around the Caspian Sea. What is less known is that these Khazars were, in fact, descended from the Edomites:

    “No one can deny that the Jews are a most unique and unusual people. That uniqueness exists because of their Edomite heritage. You cannot be English Jews. We are a race, and only as a race can we perpetuate. Our mentality is of Edomitish character, and differs from that of an Englishman. Enough subterfuges! Let us assert openly that we are International Jews.”—Manifesto of the “World Jewish Federation,” January 1, 1935, through its spokesperson, Gerald Soman

    “Hasdai ibn Shaprut, who was foreign minister to Abd-al-Rahman, Sultan of Cordova, in his letter to King Joseph of the Chazars (about 960 AD) … speaks of the tradition according to which the Chazars once dwelt near the Seir Mountains [The ‘Seir Mountains’ are none other than the original land of Esau-Edom – ‘

    Thus dwelt Esau in mount Seir: Esau is Edom’ (Genesis 36:8). Seir was a mountain range sought of the Dead Sea and was also known as the ‘land of Edom’ (Genesis 36:21). The Seir mountains were the home of the Edomites for nearly a millennium (The Edomites arrived in Edom or Seir at the end of the 14th and beginning of the 13th century B.C. Encyclopedia Judaica, Vol. 6, p. 372)

    Thus we have it from Jewish sources that the Khazars originally ‘dwell near the Seir Mountains’ so are racially of Edomite stock. But how and when did Edomites get to Khazaria? There is evidence that in the 6th century BC, some of the Edomites fled their homeland of Seir and migrated north, ‘After the fall of Jerusalem, in 586 BC, the Edomites began to press northward (Ezekiel 36:5).”
    (The New Westminster Dictionary of the Bible, ed. by Henry S. Gehman, The Westminster Press, Philadelphia, 1970, p. 418}].” (The Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. IV, (1905), p. 3).”

    It would be very easy for some of Japheth’s descendants to have married into the Edomite line thus becoming the Ashkenazi Jews.

    1. EDOMS THORN Post author

      I do appreciate that you have read some of what I have presented, and took the time to respond.

      I do want to have a deeper conversation, but time will tell if it will be of benefit to us. My health is not good, and the effort that I am able to give to my site and studies has been greatly hampered.

      I have studied history and scriptures since 1970, and began studying in the Hebrew and Greek in 1982. I have gained a very good understanding of EDOM, and understanding EDOM is the “KEY” to understanding the Synagogue Of Satan and the New World Order!

      Briefly, these are a few points that I would like you and I to address…

      FROM your comment to me, …”You had also said that you don’t believe the Ashkenazi are Edomites or something along those lines. I don’t agree. Read this link from a Black Hebrew Israelite site, don”t let that deter you. It has to do with God “enlarging” Japheth”… Elle, I have NEVER said or written anything …”along those lines”…

      This from my article “EDOM: The Story Of Jacob And Esau Is Not Just A Story”
      …”(I am adding this paragraph on March 17, 2013 because it needs to be understood. The assertion that the sons of Japheth known as ASHKENAZIM make up 90% of the so called JEWS is problematic. They do not possess the ‘genetic code’ that the sons of CAIN and EDOM possess that makes them hate God or the Sons of ISRAEL. There is NOT even a hint in scripture that the Ashkenazi are impersonating the sons of JACOB! The “Ashkenazi” claim is another one of EDOMS FABLES!)”…

      This is from my article, “The SYNAGOGUE Of SATAN: EDOMS PLAYGROUND”…
      …”KNOW this also, the Ashkenazi/KHAZAR narrative is just one more of EDOMS FABLES! Where did EDOM go after the fall of Jerusalem in 70 A.D.? Did the Children Of Israel disappear from the world, and later EDOM?

      The assertion that the sons of Japheth known as ASHKENAZIM make up 90% of the so called JEWS is problematic. They do not possess the ‘genetic code’ that the sons of CAIN and EDOM possess that makes them hate God or the Sons of ISRAEL. There is NOT even a hint in scripture that the Ashkenazi are impersonating the sons of JACOB! But there is proof that EDOM is!
      The “Ashkenazi” claim is another one of EDOMS FABLES!

      Now EDOM is a usurper and infiltrator and as The Messiah pointed out, they “proselytize” many into their Talmudic Religion, they did convert the Ashenazis but that does not eliminate EDOM from being those of Revelation 2:9 and 3:9″…

      THERE IS A PROBLEM with the use of the words “Gentile, Heathen, and JEW”. With out further research and understanding of those words, it makes it difficult to have an intelligent adult conversation.

      This information >>> “Hasdai ibn Shaprut, who was foreign minister to Abd-al-Rahman, Sultan of Cordova, in his letter to King Joseph of the Chazars”… IS not “very” new to me, but it does PROVE my point about EDOM. I Was working on an article concerning that when I became very ill last March. I was very close to posting an article exposing the KHAZAR MYTH/DIVERSION, I only need to do a little editing to Finnish up.

      Understanding EDOM is key to understanding the New World Order.

      Lets keep in touch >>>> I will respond to more of your comment and links a time and health will allow.



  5. Scott cox

    Rubbish! Unfounded twists and speculation, hatred justified by foolish exegesis, author needs to be saved likely. The endless speculations and genealogies that Paul warned believers to stay away from. How about focusing on the Gospel

    1. EDOMS THORN Post author

      Scott, you made some wild accusations, but failed to address ONE fact that I have presented!

      You also accuse me of “hatred” yet you do not point out one hateful thing I have presented. This is a typical response from a foolish “Christian” ZIONIST…
      As I KNOW what the the “GOSPEL” is, and that the “Gospel” is for BELIEVERS, and that it represents a magnificent GIFT bestowed upon “BELIEVERS”, I also KNOW that IGNORANCE will “Destroy” HIS people…. That is to say that you are a “HALTER LED SHEEPLE” that has not STUDIED >>>(II TIMOTHY 2:15 “Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth”.
      SC GREEK 3718 “orthotomeo” to make straight, cut, to DISSECT!)

      NOW if you want to ADDRESS any of the FACTS I have present, with “FACTS” I will research EVERYTHING you may present (unlike you) and then either respond in an ADULT INTELLIGENT manor, providing a “POINT BY POINT” response, explaining what and WHY I disagree or AGREE!

      So my ‘Brother’, what have you gat?

  6. jay

    Great post brother!! I salute you, but let me ask you since we know the “jews” in Israel today are fake. Then who are the real tribe of Judah Jews do you know??

    1. EDOMS THORN Post author

      Hello Jay,

      I will try to give you enough information to aide you in your understanding…

      John 10:11-16 …”I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep. The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep. I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd”…
      NOTICE in verse 16, …”And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.”
      THERE, the Messiah was clearly pointing out what He had made clear in Matthew 10:5-6 …”These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”… THEN read Matthew 11:1 …”And it came to pass, when Jesus had made an end of commanding his twelve disciples, he departed thence to teach and to preach in their cities.”…
      So in the words and understanding of the “mislead SHEEPLE” that would be …”in their “JEW” cities”….
      AS I UNDERSTAND, and believe, those that were there in “Judea” in Messiah’s day, that were of “JUDAH”, HEARD and believed the “shepherd”, and those “JEWS” that did not believe, were of EDOM, and were …” the same is a thief and a robber.”… as HE said in John 10:1.

      NOW more to your question, …”who are the real tribe of Judah Jews “… ?? The use of the word “JEW” is the cause of the extreme lack of understanding. I pointed out that the word “JEW” is the bastardization of the words “JUDAH” and JUDEAN” Looking in the Greek and Hebrew we found that those are the FACTS!
      …”the tribe that were the offspring of Judah”…
      …”the region occupied by the tribe”…
      AS I pointed out in THIS article, …”use Strong’s Concordance (S.C.) I recommend a hard copy 1980 or older”… THOSE words are from the ‘FROM’ S.C. 2448 and 2455.

      I have always said that there may be some that are called “JEWS” today that are of the House of Judah as they were in Jesus day. And many of them may be the “Sephardic Jews”. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Obadiah+1&version=KJV WE should know from scripture and History that some of “JUDAH” went into captivity with ISRAEL (see Matthew 10:5 >>>) and we also should know that some of JUDAH remained in Babylon rather than returning to Jerusalem to rebuild, and many fled going to Spain and south-eastern ‘Europe’ to escape the Babylonian captivity. SO THEY WERE NOT THERE TO HEAR the Messiah’s voice!
      I hope I have helped you to understand. When you have put all of this together in these articles, this is the only thing that makes sense. Goggle these articles….
      “Why don’t these scriptures fit the so called “Gods Chosen”?
      “EDOM: The Story Of Jacob And Esau Is Not Just A Story”

      I believe I have connected the dots with those articles.

      Thank you for your careful consideration.


  7. clive frankson

    Well researched and well presented. There maybe one or two observances I might question but that is only due to the fact I need to research further. Once again on the whole brilliant.
    Be blessed bro’.

  8. hogorina1

    The West and the East has created a great divide of various political infatuations, as fronts for trade and subversive activities and, of which, both sides of two oceans clash, as to whether democracy should mop up and unite Third World nations under an alien political doctrine, democracy, that has no merits into the social nor religious regimentation that reaches back into ancient civilizations in the past.What we have today would have driven Machiavelli out of his mind. NATO is the bridesmaid that has suffered a premature miscarriage through its illegal alliance with bought and paid for allied dictatorial setups to invade the Ukraine. President Putin of Russia pulled a fast one via entering the Crimea. One must watch the chess board of Eastern Europe since Putin might come up with an abortion.
    George Soros, business magnate, harbors a classical option that communism is to slowly reverse its incipient mold in Eastern Europe into the approaching social machinery of capitalism. This professional entrepreneur and philanthropist does not make it clear–raw capitalism or interest capitalism. Soros had George Bush in his side-pocket, in that Bush was a master tool in the hands of a futuristic police state –pro-communist rule of America. Bush was the lousiest bastard of an American president that has ever existed. Soros hated him for Bush, father and son, brought on total political wreckage in dividing West against East. And now, the gang in national office have thought up various names among the Islamic world as America’s enemies. All-in-all, this melts down to Israel vs the Islamic global movement. Gangsters in the state department like John Kerry push for political demagoguery in line with interest capitalism, thus the national economy is locked into the jaws of federal reserves ties with the Bank of England. The master key to unlock America’s grip via foreign affairs is to vacate Eastern entanglements and to bring all troops home.
    Wall Street illicit investors are in collusion with Israel’s President Netanyahu.The only way out for the state of Israel is to run Netanyahu and his gang out of office. Israel is pushed into a corner and its autocratic government must have a third world war to survive. In the hands of commie infested NATO bankers fell in line to become imperialistic, but Putrin stalled off this illegal instrument awaiting in the wings in the shadow of incipient Bolshevism. John Kerry and George Soros have the same idealistic illusion that liberalism is to replace pseudo democracy. We cannot have peace and prosperity within America when it is realised that such social reconstructing comes from the Near East. Things melt down to two basic avenues of basic intelligence–religion and geopolitics. Was soros thinking of the past as I.V. Lenin, Leon Trotsky, and Joseph Stalin? This man is a master of intellectual quantity with a strange philosophy in that I’ve got mine–you go get yours. Liberalism is Karl Marx’s basic idealism to uproot both raw and interest capitalism. George Soros is an in-between meddler gifted with Platonic insight. Putin has an international arrest warrant on Soros. He has found a fly in the refurbished Christian Russia. Hungary has denounced the controlling banksters along with the Petro dollar. Soros is a billionaire. Does he hold petro dollars or gold bars. Our U.S. Treasury has failed to return gold to several foreign governments. There must be a reason.
    Obviously, Illicit investors through global exchanges, reserves, are closing shop. The Petrodollar is worthless. Money suppliers such as the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank have been robbing and stealing from foreign nations. They loan out money that has no backing with gold or collateral. Many CEOS are committing suicide. The upshot of it all is to discontinue bribing Saudi Arabia caliphates and back off from controlling oil prices. Let Opec have its way and the market will adjust itself. If Soros rejects democracy in any manner, then our commie-run state should quit making enemies within the foreign Islam and Mohammed states. Netanyahu is the noise-maker for a WW in the interest of global Zionism. Brings disunity to state of Israel. Attempting to dissociate Netanyahu from Zionism is like attempting separate Jesuitism from the Vatican. To loosen the grip of congressional ties to universal socialism is like separating a buzzard from a dead carcass. It all tallies up to religion and geopolitics. Our republic is doomed in not recognizing the enemy within. Bolshevism is a deadly disease and the major threat seated down within our national institution,

    1. EDOMS THORN Post author

      YOU said it! …”Bolshevism is a deadly disease and the major threat seated down within our national institution”…

      That says it all!

      Thank you brother!

  9. Roy

    Greetings Edom’s Thorn,

    This comment is totally unrelated to the post, but I could not find a general ‘contact’ tab to make contact with you. You can delete this comment as it doesn’t relate to the original post.

    Just wanted to say “thanks” for the support over at that Charles Crosby’s site — truth (false) not doctrine.

    That guy is a real piece of work. Because he believes he has divine revelation, no amount of “logic” can ever permeate his selfish and prideful heart.

    He is also a huge hypocrite as he advocates for ‘free speech’ and ‘open debate’ but then the guy blocked and or deleted my contact information/blog. I can’t ever influence Charles Crosby, but at a minimum I hoped that if others found his site, that they might seek my counsel as a result.

    Anyway……..thanks for the support/comment. Not sure where you fall on the teaching of ‘marriage’, but if you are interested, I have a few thoughts at http://www.areyoumarried.wordpress.com

    I’m always looking for others to ‘sharpen iron’.

    Or you can email me — hobsroy@gmail.com

    I do appreciate your Blog. I have recommended it to many. Thanks, Roy

    1. EDOMS THORN Post author


      Thanks for the comment. That fellow is so very dangerous. I destroyed him awhile back with his Racist rantings about True Israel being the only people able to receive the Salvation found in the Messiah.

      I well email you that link so you can see just what a stiff-necked individual he is. He basically calls God a liar, ignoring Biblical facts.

      I had to speak up for you. He is a tyrant! I did not think he would allow my comment there. I had more stronger comments to make but I held back.

      I thank you for your support here.
      I will be in touch.

      1. Roy

        “…I destroyed him awhile back with his Racist rantings about True Israel being the only people able to receive the Salvation found in the Messiah………I well email you that link…

        Yes….please do. I am very interested in this discussion. I am fairly new to the teachings of Christian Identity. In fact the only thing I am absolutely sure of is who Israel is not — modern jewry. I’m still studying all the rest. I would be edified to read your debate with Crosby.

      2. EDOMS THORN Post author

        I will email you that link. But I believe that I confused him with another self-impressed Proverbs 18:2 “FOOL”. HE has an evil ‘spirit’ about him.

        I love your understanding of “marriage” VERY profound and enlightening!

        The story of my wive and I is one that may interest you.

        In short she was a virgin and I was not. We actually slept together with out sex for nearly four months, and WE had the understanding that we had made our commitment, and it was between us and God, and the state only needed to ACKNOWLEDGE our marriage, not authorize it.

        I read your post, and your provoked me to much thought and a sense of ‘fear’ for a lack of a better word. Because I was not a ‘virgin’ had I defiled my wonderful wife?

        I am still thinking about it, and I wonder if you have an answer?

        Thank you for such an IMPORTANT message!

      3. Aleitheia

        Edom’s Thorn:

        Because I was not a ‘virgin’ had I defiled my wonderful wife?

        I am still thinking about it, and I wonder if you have an answer?

        I don’t — but the Bible does.

        The sexes are different. God made them that way. Don’t simply go along with the fashionable modern ‘egalitarian’ dogma, but instead learn what God Himself thinks. …From His Word.

        Scripturally, male virginity is not important, but female virginity is. And so, for example, if one looks at Deuteronomy 22:13-21, a woman who deceived her husband by claiming to be a virgin was to be put to death. This shows very clearly what God feels about such women. However, there is no such requirement for a man. (Indeed nowhere does God make any law concerning male virginity — as it is not as important as female virginity.)

        Another example.

        If a married woman were to go and have sex with any other man than her husband, then in God’s eyes this was adultery. Both the married woman and the man were to be put to death (see, for example, Leviticus 20:10). However, if a married man were to go and have sex with an unmarried woman, there was no death penalty for this. …BUT! God demanded that a man take any woman he had just deflowered as his wife (see Exodus 22:16). And so, Biblically speaking, a married man who has sex with an unmarried woman does not commit adultery — he effectively aquires a second wife. And we see many godly men in Scripture doing just this, without God’s condemnation. (Solomon is a special case because unlike his father David who had only a handful of wives, Solomon “multiplied” wives, and had many hundreds, most of whom were “foreign” — i.e. ungodly and wicked idolaters — which meant he broke God’s law laid down in Deuteronomy 17:17.)

        The difference is very clear. God does not view the sexes as the same. Why? Because the sexes point to something more important than this world: they are a model of God and the church. We, as the church, are to have only one husband — God. Should we turn away to other gods (i.e. to the fallen angels), then He will destroy us. However, He, as God, is not confined to only one wife — He can ‘marry’ as many of us as He wishes yet be righteous.

        That is not to say that earthly polygyny (taking multiple wives) is a good idea, because men and women are fallen creatures, and such marriages seldom work out down here (the Bible is full of examples of this). It is best not to take more than one wife. Indeed, if one heeds Paul’s words in 1 Corinthians 7, it is better not to take a wife at all — although not all Christians can bear this teaching (as Christ Himself said).

        In short, the Biblical position is that when a man takes a woman’s virginity, she thereafter belongs to him (in God’s eyes she’s a wife) — the man cannot simply dump her or divorce her (unless she goes and has sex with another man). Similarly, for her part, she must stay faithful to the man until death.

        So no, you haven’t “defiled” your wife.

        Hope that helps. (It’s taken me ages to write!)

  10. Hackens

    The NWO says thanks for getting yourself banned from the Adask blog. Al’s relief at finally having an excuse to remove a troublesome thorn from his side was obvious.

    1. EDOMS THORN Post author

      What do you know about what happened there? I see you commented about this before as >>> Farmer Joe

      So you are from Florida.

      Al Adask has been destroying my credibility at his site for two years. He allows “Les Fuchs” to do his (AL’S) DIRTY WORK for him. FUCHS may in fact be Al Adask! WHO are you?

      1. Hackens

        I am not “Farmer Joe” and I am not in Florida.

        Adask and Fuchs worked together to take you out of the game. They double teamed ya. Fuchs got you all worked up, but you were not banned for anything you said to Fuchs. You flew off the handle and insulted prima donna Adask by implying he lied when he denied reading all of his comments. (Though you’re right. Adask surely does read all his comments and rides the roller-coaster while doing so.) That is all the excuse prima donna Adask needed to set himself and his message free of you while not appearing to be censoring you.

        We were short handed already, now you effed up and took yourself off the field. Time to gear up and get back in there. If Les Fuchs can show persistence, you can too.

      2. EDOMS THORN Post author

        Now you comment using a ‘proxy severer’, but I won’t call you a liar….

        So who are you?

        This is what got me banned >>>

        You need to refute the evidence that I have presented that PROVES that EDOM are those in Revelation 3:9 or Shut you ignorant face!

        You have never refuted one fact that I have presented, all you do is engage in personal attacks, slander and ridicule etc. I have handed you your ASS on every point you have ever made because you have no argument! You have never exhibited a love for the truth only ridicule and distortions and distractions! Is that why Al Adask allows you (LES FUCHS) to continue your slander and ridicule? We will never know because Al pretends he does not receive a notification of ‘”every comment” but I KNOW he does! I also operate a WordPress site!

        You say there are …”no ANY EDOMITE JEWS” when I have proven with Biblical and Historical FACTS that you are a LIAR and a “FOOL”!

        This is so disgusting how FOOLS make crap up, and not one person will even defend the truth!
        I get it that I am hated, because I point out that most have been deceived! But not one FACT I have presented has been refuted, all that I receive is personal attacks, not one time does any one speak to my points or the FACTS!

        This so called Law expert should know that what you are doing would be a cause for legal action! Defamation of character, and slander. You call me a liar yet can not prove a lie. You attack me with claims that I am a deceiver and prove nothing! You have stated many times that I am of those that I am warning the people about calling me a son of “your father the devil”! Not to mention the ass whopping you would receive if you got in my face with such garbage! Titus 1:11 is what you appear to be!

        You are a punk and a liar that has Al ADASK defending you! Al had nothing to say about your ATTACKS on me! WHY? Al says that I am ‘hammering” and does not put an end to the the disagreement/LACK of an answer by H(h)enry. HELL NO! All Al Adask said was I need to Shut the hell up! DISGUSTING! TRUTH does not matter! All that matters is that I SHUT UP!

        The intellectual cowards that hide behind their silence and Al Adsk’s cover are pathetic!
        Wont any one grow a pair and have an adult conversation? Does no one know how that is done?

        Come on Al Adask, get your preacher to refute me! Al Adask get a JEWISH Rabbi to refute me!\

        It is not about “ME” it is about the truth, and these things are FOUND from many sources, not just EDOMS THORN!

        I know that everything that I have presented is the truth! I know that there is not one person that can prove otherwise! My research and observations are sound! Al Adask, this filthy troll LES FUCHS needs to back up his claims! Will you call him on it? Will you allow slander and lies to go unanswered?

  11. Farmer Joe

    You realize when a blogger baits you into back and forth personal attacks in the comment section of his blog, he is building a case to ban you and remove your thorny message from his flesh, right buddy?

    1. EDOMS THORN Post author

      Joe I understand that. Thanks for your support. That is why you do not see much of the foolish agreements at this site. I am assuming that you are referring to Al Adask, Am I correct? Or where? I get these attacks at many sites I comment at. The fact that they will not ‘attack’ my FACTS or points, proves that they have no argument and would rather I did not post at their sites. The truth wins every time, those attacks tells us that WE have the truth. Why would anyone not research the FACTS? If they did, and found any errors and exposed them, they would have accomplished more than their personal attacks ever could!

      What do you say?


  12. EDOMS THORN Post author

    YOu said I should be “Honest with myself”… What about you actually researching what I have presented and being HONEST with yourself???? You comment is so full of holes in light of the Biblical and Historical FACTS that I have presented!

    I am so sick of Bible illiterates that have an agenda that clearly deviates from the TRUTH of Gods word! This constant stream of your kind is getting very tiresome! NONE of you will even bother to research what I have presented, and that is made evident by your IGNORant comment!!!! REFUTE and or speak to my points! Alas, you and your kind to not have the ability to do that! MY research is sound and based in Biblical and Historical FACTS! All you and your kind have to argue with is out of context, emotion based nonsense!!!

  13. EDOMS THORN Post author

    Deuteronomy 28:68 And the Lord shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you”… CAN YOU UNDERSTAND what is written? It plainly states, …”and no man shall buy you”… The reason …”no man shall buy you”… was because the NATIONS back then understood that ISRAEL was under the LIVING Gods punishment, and were CURSED by HIM, and they did not want them among their own!

    But you an your kind will continue to take that scripture, and MANY others out of context, and ADD meanings to GODS word that simply do not belong there, out of PRIDE for one, and hatred for the white man! GET IT STRAIGHT! What I have presented here, is the truth, and you can not even speak to my points, nor would you dare to even have an adult conversation with me, and answer ONE little question! I will allow your comment for all to see, and if you have the courage, prove me wrong. ANSWER this one question, and make any of this FIT the Negroes! “Why don’t these scriptures fit the so called “Gods Chosen”?

    Those scriptures FIT the White Western Nation to the LETTER! How do you answer my question?

    1. Anonymous

      WOW.what kind of god do you worship man, your language betrays your ignorance and hate.

      GENESIS Chapter 49


      DEUT 28: 46 And they(curses) shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever.

      According to Jeremiah 17:4 the children of Israel would be discontinued from their heritage (language, culture, possessions etc…), which would leave room for the question, “Since the children of Israel were discontinued from their heritage, how would they know who they are; and how do we know they exist?”

      According to the Hebrew Scriptures the children of Israel are cursed by the sins of their fathers (Matthew 27:24-25) and scattered among all nations until the fullness of the Gentiles (None Israelites) comes (see Romans 11:25, Luke 21:24).

      Deuteronomy 28:46 – And they (the curses) shall be upon thee for a sign and a wonder and upon thy seed (children) forever.

      This shows us that these curses written in the Scriptures would identify who the children of Israel are because there would be no other way to identify them. Those who claim to be Jews (Ashkenazim) fail, in everyway, to fit the criteria but who does? The so-called Negro, who is a descendant of the slave trade, and the so-called Hispanics and Indians who are the original founders of the New World, fit the criteria more than any other people.

      Deut 28:16 Cursed shall you be in the city any cursed shall you be in the field.
      (The so-called negro was cursed, both in the city and the field, because in the field he was a slave and after, he was placed in the impoverished slums or the city. Another example of this parable would be, when the so-called negro moves into the rural area (field), he is looked at as an Uncle Tom and a house negro by other “blacks” who may have grown up with him, because of his success. “Whites”, who occupied the neighborhood before him, have the general attitude that he doesn’t belong there because of his color, which also makes him more subject to harassment by the police. When he is in the poverty stricken ghetto (city), he is respected by others in the same position, but forced to live in a low state and a high crime area.

      Leviticus 26:17 And I will set my face against you, and you shall be slain before your enemies: they who hate you shall reign over you; and you shall flee when none pursues you.

      Dark skin is viewed as inferior or unbecoming all over the world; and prejudice against so-called Negroes is common all over the world. Even blacks in Israel today are referred to as “Cushim” meaning Nigger. This verse explains that the Israelite would be unable to escape prejudice and discrimination.

      Jeremiah 24:9 And I will deliver them to be removed into all the kingdoms of the Earth for their hurt, to be a reproach and a proverb, a taunt and a curse, in all places whither I shall drive them.

      Deut 28:37 And you shall become an astonishment and a byword among all nations where the Lord shall lead you

      Deut 28:67 In the morning, you shall say, would Elohim it were evening! And at evening you shall say, Would Elohim it were morning! for the fear of your heart wherewith you shall fear, and for the sight of your eyes which you shall see.

      This illustrates a similar point; the children of Israel would face a lose-lose situation where satisfaction in their standard of living was concerned.

      Rudolph R Windsor shed some light on this verse; in his book “The Valley of the Dry Bones” he states…

      “…….Fear, death, and destruction remained with the black from the moment the slavers took him aboard the slave ships until the present day. Throughout the summer and fall of 1919, more than twenty race riots erupted in the United States, like swarms of locusts, and blood flowed like water in the streets of American cities.
      The worse race riot engulfed the city of Chicago, where whites killed a lonely black boy because he chose to go to a white beach……

      ……..The riot ensued for thirteen days, left 38 people dead and 537 injured, and about one thousand black families were made homeless before the National Guard restored order………..”

      “The Valley of the Dry Bones” – Rudolph R Windsor

      Deut 28:22 Yahweh shall smite you with a consumption, and with an inflammation, and with an extreme burning, and with the sword, and with an extreme burning, and with the sword, and with blasting, and with mildew; and they shall pursue you until you perish…..

      Deut 28:27 And Yahweh will smite thee with the botch of Egypt, and with the emrods, and with the scab, and with the itch wherein those cannot be healed.

      ………..The botch of Egypt was a tumor or a boil. The botch was one of the ten plagues that Yahweh brought upon the Egyptians by the hand of Moses (Exodus 9:9). Emrods are another name for boils; scabs are dried up sores that protrude from the skin; the itch is a contagious eruption of the skin. The disease that they feared the most on the ships was smallpox, because the doctors had no way of curing it until the end of the eighteenth century. If one man had it, he could infect a whole ship, unless he was thrown overboard the first time the scab appeared. Mr. Mannix tells us that Captain Wilson of the “Briton” lost more than half of his cargo of 375 slaves by not listening to his surgeon’s advice regarding the signs of smallpox. The captain did not want to part with this good slave, and within a short time many of the other slaves were infected with the disease. Henry Ellison said, “I have seen the platform one continued scab. We hauled up eight or ten slaves dead of the morning. Their flesh and skin peeled off their wrists when taken hold of being entirely mortified.” – The Valley of the Dry Bones – Rudolph R Windsor

      This verse also put a special emphasis on incurable diseases…..

      Deut 28:61 Also every sickness, and every plague, which is not written in the Book of this Torah (Law), them will Yahweh bring upon you, until you be destroyed.

      According to (CDC) black women account for 49% of all new H.I.V. cases.
      The rate of HIV among black women is 20 times that of the white woman.
      We are the only people afflicted by Sickle cell and many other “black diseases”.

      The top 10 killers of the so-called black man:

      Cardio Vascular disease,
      We lead in every cancer,
      Multiple sclerosis,
      Chronic lower respiratory disease,
      Nephritic syndrome,
      Approx 40% of all abortions.

      Deut 28:26 And your carcase shall be meat unto all fowls of the air, and unto the beasts of the Earth, and no man shall fray them away.
      (This happened to the slaves, when they were hung on trees and the birds would pick at their scalps, because the hung bodies were left like manikins on display.)

      Deut 28:28 Yahweh shall smite you with madness, and blindness, and astonishment of heart (insanity)

      “……..many slaves suffered insanity, madness and hysteria when they saw the slave masters beat, rape, kill and sell their loved ones.
      Slavery was so harsh and cruel in America that many slaves committed suicide and infanticide…….” – “The Valley of Dry Bones” – Rudolph R Windsor

      Deut 28:29 And you shall grope at noonday, as the blind gropes in darkness, and you shall not prosper in your ways: and you shall be only oppressed and spoiled evermore, and no man shall save you.

      The word grope literally means to fumble around or to feel around and, spiritually, the so-called black man (descendants of slaves) has done more “groping” in search of a racial and religious identity than any other race. The Negro has gone from Muslim to Moorish, Christian to Catholic, Rastafarian to Afro centric Egyptology, Crip to Blood, and so on. This confusion came about because the so-called Negro has been alienated from his original culture, so he seeks to identify with one that will provide a sense of belonging. Every nationality has their own ancient religion; the Chinese are Buddhist, the Arabs are Muslim, the Europeans are Roman Catholic (Modern day Pagan Christianity), but what is the Negro? He is oppressed and spoiled evermore because the other races give him the mental bars of religion to gain profit and economic growth of its followers, especially blacks.

      Blacks are the most divided people where religion is concerned and other races take advantage of it. Religion has made so-called Blacks unable to unify, because of their lack of racial identity, and other races use this division as a means to conquer and oppress them.

      Isaiah 5:13 Therefore my people are gone into captivity, because they have no knowledge: and their honourable men are famished, and their multitude dried up with thirst.

      Deut 28:30 You shall betroth a wife, and another man shall lie with her: you shall build a house, and you shall not dwell therein: you shall plant a vineyard, and shall not gather the grapes thereof

      This was common during the times of slavery; when the slave would have a wife and the master would rape the women. Nearly the entire Western Hemisphere was built off slave labor yet the descendants of the slaves have absolutely nothing to show for it, because it was all written in the curse.

      Deut 28:33 The fruit of your land, and all your labours, shall a nation which you know not eat up; and you shall be only oppressed and crushed always.

      It even exists in this current day; where sports, entertainment, and inventions are things that the so-called Negro dominates where labor is concerned, but is the smallest beneficiary and least credited. The black man doesn’t even own the businesses in his own community though he is the major consumer of products sold by other races, which are foreign to them.

      Deut 28:31 Thine ox shall be slain before thine eyes, and thou shalt not eat thereof: thine ass shall be violently taken away from before thy face, and shall not be restored to thee: thy sheep shall be given unto thine enemies, and thou shalt have none to rescue them.

      On point 3 of the Black Panthers 10 point program it states:
      “We believe that this racist government has robbed us and now we are demanding the overdue debt of forty acres and two mules.” (which until this day we have not received)

      In other words Yahweh is basically saying there would be no compensation for the atrocities committed against them during and after slavery (which there wasn’t)

      Deut 28:32 Thy sons and thy daughters shall be given unto another people, and thine eyes shall look, and fail with longing for them all the day long; and there shall be no might in thine hand.

      Deut 28:41 You shall beget sons and daughters, but you shall not enjoy them for they shall go into captivity.

      The slaves’ children were stripped away from their parents and their entire heritage; given to the hands of their enemies and their parents we powerless to stop them. This is taking place even today in our judicial system with more than 80% minorities behind bars.

      In America there are about 6 times more blacks incarcerated than whites though blacks only make up 12.8% of the population. Whites make roughly 80%

      Isaiah 42:22, Zechariah 11:4-5,

      Deut 28:36 Yahweh shall bring you and your king which you shall set over you, unto a nation which neither you nor your fathers have known; and there shall you serve other gods, wood and stone.

      This happened during the trans-Atlantic slave trade. The so-called Negro was alienated from his history, his GOD and his culture, and scattered into every nation on the planet earth as a slave. As a result of the alienation from their GOD they have served every god in existence in search of an identity, just as it was written. Wood, being the wooden cross of “Christianity”, and the stone, being the Kabba stone of Islam in Mecca to which the Muslims bow before.

      Deut 28:43 The stranger that is within you shall get up above you very high and you shall come down very low.

      This is clear to see in the Black and Hispanic neighborhoods where Arabs own the corner stores and gas stations, Asians and Europeans (non Israeli) own the local businesses, and Jewish people own the large corporate businesses in the Black neighborhood. The so-called Negro has been in America longer than any other minority except the so-called Indians, who are the true founders or this land, yet he is in the lowest state of all, not because of his incapability to learn and succeed, as few have despite the adversities, but because of this curse which has come upon him by Yahweh.

      Deut 28:44 He shall lend to you, and you shall not lend to him: he shall be the head, and you shall be the tail.

      The Gentiles control the banks, Federal Reserve, and nearly all the lending institutions which contribute heavily to the poverty of the Blacks and Hispanics in the systematic slavery created to keep the rich wealthy and the poor impoverished. The people who claim to be Jews today own the Banks and the Media so this (curse) obviously couldn’t be referring to them.

      Deut 28:48 Therefore shall you serve your enemies which Yahweh shall send against you, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron­ upon your neck, until he have destroyed you
      true Israelites
      s was the intensity of the Trans Atlantic slave trade,
      Deut 28:49 Yahweh shall bring a nation against you from afar, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flies; a nation whose tongue you shall not understand.

      The fact that the slaves couldn’t understand the tongue of masters is an important detail because the so-called Negro and Hispanics in the Western Hemisphere all speak the languages of their conquerors, whether a broken form or in another dialect, but have forgotten their own native language. During the slave trade, the Gentiles, would come from nations all over the globe to buy and sell Negroes.

      Deut 28:64 And the Lord shall scatter you among all people, from one end of the Earth, even unto the other; and there you shall serve other gods, which neither you nor your fathers have known, even wood and stone.

      Deut 28:68 And the Lord shall bring you into Egypt again with ships, by the way wherof I spoke unto you, You shall see it no more again: and there you shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.

      Finally the people calling themselves Jews have never been sold on slave ships ever in history. But the so-called Negro has experienced all the curses spoken of in the Scripture concerning the children of Israel, but has not been given recognition for it.

      Revelation 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Master was pierced on the tree.

      Egypt, in the context of this verse, is probably not referring to the Americas; but illustrates and strengthens the fact that the Egypt Yahweh was going to take the children of Israel to on ships, was another house of bondage. This only makes sense because never in recorded history did the children of Israel return to Egypt in bondage with ships

      1. EDOMS THORN Post author

        MR. “SOMEONE”, you have done it again! You make some good points, but you have yet to answer my questions or speak to the points I have made! Therefore, I will not bother to respond to you…. NOW you go back into our conversations, and give my the respect that I would give to you IF IF IF you would answer my questions….

        You are so filled with HATE and IGNORance, and have taken scripture out of context, in your attempt to prove a LIE!!!

    2. Anonymous

      How come my comments keep getting deleted? You obviously have an insidious hidden agenda.your language is littered with ignorance and a false sense of superiority.you should humble yourself.youre going out of your way to decieve but as surely as the sun shines the truth will be revealed.I have posted two rebuttals with scripture to back me up but they are nowhere to be seen.can someone explain that to me

      1. EDOMS THORN Post author

        LIAR!!! You KNOW that your comments have not been deleted! You can see them because I have not “APPROVED” them, so they are in “MODERATION”!

        WHY??? BECAUSE you are a COWARD and a LIAR that will not answer my questions, or speak to my points! You have nothing but out of context B.S. and you leave out the other FACTS in scripture that prove your ERRORS!

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  15. Samantha Dalrymple

    Thank you ! I get discouraged because most all christians are decived . God did a miraculous work for me to come to this knowledge. It breaks my heart that many have been deceived by false doctrine as I was for many years, but most will not even look at the truth. God Bless

    1. EDOMS THORN Post author


      I thank God and WordPress that I am allowed to share with HIS people what the enemy has denied them of.

      80% of those that come here, do so by way of their own “search Terms” and that tells me that many are able to understand that EDOM is an important component in these End Days How did you come here?

      Actually, by definition, these truth are not DOCTRINAL. They are about the true lineage of Jacob/ISRAEL. Many wrongly accuse me as an “Heretick”, when by definition it is not Heresy.
      The Christian Zionist’s are so hard to reach. They have been led astray from the truth of Gods word, by the EDOMITE infiltrators in the Seminaries and Churches. I only get Ridicule and slander as they make up meanings/Interpretations to explain away the truth, and in doing so, their handling the word of God deceitfully is BLASPHEMY! It is impious and reproachful speech injurious to divine majesty They call GOD a liar!

      Proverbs 1:20-22 Wisdom crieth without; she uttereth her voice in the streets: She crieth in the chief place of concourse, in the openings of the gates: in the city she uttereth her words, saying, How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?”

      Thank you. You gave me encouragement by your comment.


      1. Samantha Dalrymple

        Well my amazing conversion is that God sent me on a path that I am still amazed by but most in the church won’t hear it because it includes words like aliens, freemason the occult and the bloodline of Jesus and King Solomon. I was in the process of selling Alien information. Sounds strange but my husbands grandfather was a contactee in 1950 and also a master mason. The terms Esoteric’s and meta physics and seven documented years of channeling spirits by my husbands grandfather as well as my husbands father worked at Area51 and also was one of the top computer scientist which he claimed alien intellegence gave the government to gain technology for our nuclear protections and satellites . Searching this information which at the time I believe was just crazy it lead me Down a road that God wanted me to see. I would have never found truth without The Lord. It’s very sad the church ” Is extremely closed minded so I searched and found others discovering truth that the church stays ignorant about or hides . Things such as Jews who are not Jews in rev. 3:9 as well as understanding why Freemasons idolize tubal cain, nimrod and king solomon . It frustrates me no one will listen or take the time to even look at scriptures that contidict what our churches are teaching to the blind sheep. the support of Israel and the rebuilding of the temple is a blasphemy to Jesus Chirst but if you speak they shut you up and will not even look at scripture ? My testimony is long but I am frustrated and attend church praying for The Lord to open eyes so I drop hints and still wonder why God had given me this knowledge and a testimony . I wait and know thier are reasons . I hope this made sense and thank you for your contact. It makes me know I am not alone since most think im crazy but I can’t deny what I have discovered , even if it’s very troubling but it’s truth. The evidence is overwhelming yet people like to live with thier head in the sand and pretend, it really is the matrix out there in the churches . I have a lot to share but this is the simplest way to answer how I came to your site and I have found only a few source I trust God I belive has given me a gift of disernment so I commented on your site . I love Timothy Fitzgerald and I comment some times on his ( his crop circles and the Kabbalah article has some of my testimony if you inclined to read more about my crazy info and his insite on crop circles was very interesting) as well as pastor Mike Hoggard also Ted Pike speaks allot about Zionisum in the church . I hate being called anti semetic I recently left a church because they attacked me as anti semetic I don’t support what Israel is doing this false doctrine in churches has infiltrated so much and I hated the Israel Flag hanging in our sanctuary which I know is the Ancient Mystery Religion sign of Freemasons , Kabbalah and all false religion symbols being set up for the one world religion and the NWO. Sorry im rambling . I will stay in the loop here if you don’t mind. Jesus Christ is Lord and Savior and my King .

      2. EDOMS THORN Post author


        You are so far ahead of the vast majority of those calling themselves Christians, and CHRISTIANS. It is OUR responsibility to prove all things 1 Thessalonians 5:21. WE certainly aren’t CRAZY, it is the world that has gone insane with the lies they are told, and believe. I have been toying with the idea of wearing a “TIN FOIL HAT” and telling people that knowing what I KNOW, I am taking ALL threats seriously, perceived or in our face in the open.
        (GMO food, Chem Trails etc.).

        You are correct, we do not light a candle and place a basket over it. I was 14 when I prayed that God would reveal to me what HE would have me to know. I saw our true ISRAEL IDENTITY In 1970 at age 14, I received the best advice that any Christian can receive, be they young or old, and that was to read my Bible and believe it, that it IS the Word Of God! And so, much to the consternation of ALL of the preachers that I have met since then, I did just that. As a “CHILD” of God, we should trust that our Father does not lie, and is able to do ALL HE said in HIS word!

        Go to the link below and read that. Doctor A. True Ott is his real name, and I have come to trust him 100% so far. He is a Blessing and a GIFT from God! He does great research. He is linked in my articles here many times.


        Thanks Sister, and “LOOK UP”…



      3. Samantha Dalrymple

        If it had not been for the Holy Spirit leading each answer to my questions from a source of a man lead astray by Denomic forces and channeling each “secret word in his 1955-1963 journals” to my amazement was being fulfilled right before my eyes . These spirits have been leading mankind astray since the beginning. We wrestle not against flesh and blood but against the powers and principalities of the air. I’m a beliver. I was excited and also mourned that everything I believed in and was told was a lie in church and in my government.in regards to Israel and the wars we fought a blow to being an American…. the idols we as children were taught to worship and our leaders being occult worshipers that God warned us not to follow and still we made idols of stone . We worship other Gods in America . The old testement now made complete sense . We are just like the Israelites in the desert. Now it makes sense the lessons are for us in the end times as God fortold and I believe now God is pouring our his spirit and it will increase In these last days . We the crazy ones, conspiracy theorists. It was overwhelming. I can understand to a point how unbelievable this all is yet it’s fullfillment of prophecy so how can we deny what is being revieled to us. Thank you I think you are the first to understand and respond to my testimony . I’m compelled to share and so far I have had opposition from most fundamental Christians and unbelievers . God says it would be as in the days of Noah and there would be a great falling away . Just another confirmation that his word is true. You are an answer to prayer . May God have mercy and Grace as well as justice !!! My hope is based on nothing less than Jesus Blood and righteousness ! Yes your a brother. I will continue the race . Our home is not hear.

      4. Brian David

        Now that you know that Esau/Edom called Jews are the synagogue of Satan and are not God’s chosen people, here is something else to consider since we know that the white race is Jacob/Israel and Esau/Edom, thus the wheat and tares that grow up together. Here is something just as important, the United States (Babylon) which is a Corporation under USC Title 28 sits on top of the Nation America which is eschatological Jerusalem and the house of David is being rebuilt in these last days in America. A son of David, named David will be one of the two witnesses and the prince of Israel under Jesus Christ. He will give understanding to those who have no understanding and will build the temple in the millennium. The temple will be a head quarters for the government (Zion) in America (Jerusalem) where people will come to visit and worship the Most High in the glory of the Lord. There will be six kitchens in this temple and it will be a lot like 12 national parks each with a gate and and those of us who are Iraelites will build cabins, hotels, lodges, dorms, etc. for the people to stay in while they visit the temple. We will have sacrifices to feed the people and lodge them, drink wine, fellowship, sing, eat bread, etc. There will also be 30 dining rooms at the temple. Now you know why there will be a temple in the millennium it will help bring the whole world into the glory of God over a thousand year period. There is a new world order coming alright, under Jesus Christ, thru his blood. Praise God.

      5. EDOMS THORN Post author

        Wonderfully put! SEEING from the perspective that we have, it opens a whole new way of understanding. I do not believe that “AMERICA” is BABYLON, as that is a “CITY” and the destruction of that “Great City” would be seen from afar, and mourned by those that love the New World Order and that vision of a GODLESS World Order. However, I do see that your description of a NEW JERUSALEM in America as a very good probability. There is a good bit of scripture that leads us to believe that “New Jerusalem” will be in the Middle East, and the Mount of Olives is there, I am not sure that the Temple could be in America, unless there is a complete remaking or restructuring of the world and the Continents are brought back together as it was in the days before Peleg. Which is exactly what I think happens. The Scriptures do tell us that a “New Heaven and Earth” will be established, and so that leaves us with those things to consider. I do not try to interpret Prophesy much beyond determining the meanings of the words and language used. I do have my opinions, but understanding the elements of the word of God as I have presented, I believe will greatly aide my Brothers and Sisters in Christ, to then gain a better understanding of Prophesy! For example, the Gog/Magog in Ezekiel 39-39 becomes clearly understood as NOT for the “JEWS” but for ISRAEL, and from there they will see that ISRAEL is not in the Middle East but in fact, described as “us” in the NEW ISRAEL, The LOST TRIBES are in the Western Nations, etc.

        It is so nice to see your comment. I found it while “cleaning out” my SPAM. For some reason your comment was sent there, and I was not aware of it until today. I looked at your site for a moment, and will be back. I see that you have a great love for your KINSMEN and the word of God. Do keep in touch.

        Best regards and much success in all you have endeavored to do! You shall be found “APPROVED”!


  16. hogorina1


    One can easily be moderated out of this site. There is a great movement in our nation to shut down reasonable conversation. We must repeat Thomas Paine ; ” These are times that try man’s souls”. It is a crime against our national society being held in check by selected satanic perversion, through phallus worship. Paine knew of this when aided in writing
    the Declaration of In dependence. Too, this great patriot rebelled against Art. 6, Sec. 6, on treaties. Thomas Jefferson wrote the Constitution; but he not possess the will to oppose this conspicuous clause- standing against the Bank of England, because he was against the wall in attempting to
    oppose universal finance’s conspiratorial control from a one-mile square in London known as ( The City of Gold ).. Yes, within three-hundred years America has been overthrown; for total corruption had found its place when Art. 6, Sec. 6, was funneled into the Constitution, after it had been legally ratified. Phallus worship, perversion, was the fall of mankind several hundred years before the great Deluge, of which Noah escaped via the Ark. If Paine were living today he would hang his head in shame, to witness America’s spiritual decline into the lowly world of animal instinctiveness, as this moment our nation harbors the measure of lower life. holding aloft the estate of mother nature’s natural habits with the animal world, in glorying in the rebirth of phallus worship. Our Creator warned King Solomon of the Jebusites, who today infect western civilization- pre-programed mental perversion through uncontrolled passions. The late President Herbert Hoover, a Quaker, in autobiography, pub. 1951, warned that America was following the [ spiritual manners ] of ancient Esau. The Jebusites – off-shoot of ancient Esau the Red. This blood line holds the highest seats in national government-results, phallus worship is the master key of a wicked state in the hands of perverted politicians.

    1. EDOMS THORN Post author


      Yes, EDOM has gained control of OUR Government, and has manipulated our Foreign and Domestic Policies. The Scriptures say that the world is to turn on ISRAEL, and EDOM is doing all that can be done to make that happen.

      I do not know what you mean concerning “phallus worship”. I am considering writing an article that will point out what I believe EDOM has created and or established in our Nations that has caused us to behave/participate in the evil that surely God hates and will bring His Judgement upon us, and in same way that caused God to send us (True Israel) into Assyrian Captivity.

  17. hogorina1

    SUBSCRIBERS———more so in the field of EDUCATION!

    America is now being driven into a well planned
    global depression, not a period of specific
    recessions.as being palmed off on inarticulate masses; ,
    office appointed political whores, collectively bowl down to a clan of international
    banksters, with combined cultures of polluted ethnic
    ancestry. This mysterious empire is not at all
    absolutely interested in monetary gain. Their chief
    operation is to move into select capitalistic
    nationsof global influence, in spreading the gospel
    of pseudo-socialism and all isms that various nations
    latch onto in order to maintain a preconceived ideas
    of existing from the womb too the tomb. As this
    method has been used to destabilize all Third Word
    countries as stepping stones into the heart and
    souls of any republic not previously sanctioned as an
    instrument of their web.
    Thus First Amendment to the Constitution must be voided.
    Without a doubt, Our republican/Democratic political
    machine must become divided, splintered and totally
    plundered, as though an unseen hand of a supposed
    luciferan influence has full control. As before
    stated, materialistic greediness is only a means to
    an end to openly, steal, rob and plunder a nation, (
    AMERICA ), is simply to imply that treason is being
    committed in the highest echelons of national
    Our Republic has been transformed into a national
    (METROPOLITAN SEWER ).aiding in this inward
    destruction. This is a massive flood of well-trained
    revolutionaries, as trained Marxists with the cry of
    proletarians of the world unite. Marxism is the Bible
    of mobocracy in our country whether it is of
    ignorance, or subtly instilled via a national commie
    machine of liberalized journalistic prostitution. The
    revamping of public opinion is presently orientated far
    beyond comprehension.
    Yes, indeed, every spiel of isms that lead to the
    path of national socialism are fed to innocent
    citizens of impaired vision, that usually end up with
    mob intellect. And for all others of whom are aware
    as to the changing tide of thought in difficult
    times, are being freely fleeced of their substance by
    planting the ever flippant line of thought in
    difficult times, by planned inflation. Most are
    innocently seduced via misinformed governmental
    financial disclosure, are led astray being duped and
    ignorantly rail roaded into every concept of
    approaching socialism, by a some what national
    The Southern United States is under Marxists
    reconstruction — no question about the northern
    hemisphere. The simple-minded are loaded down with
    commie inspired news concealing liberalism’s path
    through the Bible belt of the United States. Working
    people are hammered down with every day insignificant
    trifles of news-hounding. Most of all, no child or
    women are safe on the streets. Police protection, as
    allied with SWAT and FEMA are more prone to protect
    commercial interests alone. All school children need
    more protection, and proper education to sustain them
    through life. Socialism is not the answer. Hard work
    and self-esteem is the very roots of individual

    1. EDOMS THORN Post author

      Hogorina you understand what is happening. Shout it out loud so those that have ears to hear can benefit from your understanding. We have our own area of responsibility, and can go no further.

      You can make a difference.


  18. Christopher

    I’ve read through this thread and i cant help but ask the question; Do you suppose the “red army’ had something to do with the bulshevik Jews slapping Russia in the face by calling their army the Red army….As the Bible States and you reiterate this point as well, ‘Edomite’ = Red..After the Revolution and the jews victory in murdering millions, do you think its plausible that the Red Army was named as such ? Coincidence or not its quite suspicious to say the least. If the jews = Edomites and were quite prevalent in Russia and committed their acts of terror against the Russian People, then after the war name the Army the ‘red army’ seems all too coincidental, or perhaps im reading into it too much ?

    1. EDOMS THORN Post author

      Christopher having thought about your point, I came to that conclusion myself. It is like an ‘inside joke’ and a slap in the face of those of us that know who they are.
      Communism is a creation of EDOM. By understanding the parallels Cain and Able, Esau and Jacob and Satan and Jesus, we can see the main motivation of the ‘Evil Seed’ is the destruction of the Seed of Adam and the True Children of Israel and Christianity. It seems to me that all of the other victims of the Communist Scourge are out of necessity for their N.W.O. As in the South American countries and China, with China as the model for the N.W.O.
      Here is some interesting info about the Red and White Russians, http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_movement

      The Jewish writer Bernard Lazare said, “it is certain that there were Jews even at the cradle of Freemasonry — Cabalistic Jews, as it is proved by certain existing rites . . . The Jew is also a builder: proud, ambitious, domineering, he tries to draw everything to himself. He is not satisfied with de-Christianizing, he Judases; he destroys the Catholic or Protestant faith, he provokes indifference, but he imposes his idea of the world, of morals, and of life upon whose faith he ruins; he works at his age-old task — the annihilation of the religion of Christ!”
      Now I realize this is not put out for “goyim” consumption. But it is found, nevertheless, in many Jewish writings. Jewish leadership in the Communist Revolution has been a “bragging point” for Jews for years. In the Jewish Chronicle, April 4, 1918, can be found this statement: “…there is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that the ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with the finest ideals of Judaism…”

      The following is the first thing I read that confirmed what I had concluded, based on my research and observations.

      As David Davidson says in “Palestine: Esau Claims Possession” (Destiny Magazine for May 1948, p. 155. Destiny Publishers, Merrimac, Mass., 01860): “The race of Esau were the Edomites, of Old Testament history, and included the marauding Sinaitic tribe of Amalek. The dominant physiognomy and aggressively intrusive characteristics of the race were derived from the native stock of North Syria through the ‘Hittite’ wives of Esau, and by subsequent intermarriage between the Edomites and ‘Hittites.’ After the Edomites (or Idumeans) were absorbed into the remnant of Judah, after 130 B.C., but mainly in the dispersion following the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D., the Edomite-Hittite physiognomy eventually emerged as the European Jewish type; falsely called ‘Semitic’…Herod the Great was an Edomite and became the first ‘King of the Jess.’ As such he sought to destroy our Lord at birth. At that time the Idumeans had been comprised in the Jewish state and had been Jews in religion for over a century. They dominated the whole of Jewish life and our Lord, in revealing the nature of the Herodian or Idumean domination, refers to ‘the leaven of Herod’ as the antithesis of the leaven of the Kingdom of God’…In the Revelation of Jesus Christ (Revelation 1:1) the effect of the intrusion is referred to as ‘the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.’ (Revelation 2:9; 3:9)

      Thanks for your input and do remember to click on the “FOLLOW” button, I am working on another article to be posted soon.


  19. A Chosen One

    Please tell me how you could advertise a solid cold lie. This is what you and the rest of your white edomites are good at. You lie you deceive you trick and you have influenced by killing and stealing. You have done this from the beginning of time. It clearly tells you all through the Bible, that the Negros ethnic group is the only people of GOD. They are not Africans of America. By the way there is no such nationality as an African American. You edomites and hamites, are true descendants of Satan. What group of people formed complete armies to remove innocent people from their land. What group of people form organizations that kill and slaughter those of opposite skin color? WHITE EDOMITES! You and your lies will be dealt with in coming days because my Master, has spoken. You took part in removing us from Israel, You took part in naming a group of people what you wanted them to be. You call white pagans the people of Israel, knowing fool well that they could never be. You have lied for centuries. You have made up nearly everything. You are the anti-christ, and I know for I am a chosen one..

    1. EDOMS THORN Post author

      Well, I see that your vast knowledge and passion for the truth, has provided you with the ability to refute or make over forty years of my research a LIE! Very good! I was especially impressed with how you took OBADIAH 1:2 “Behold, I have made thee small among the heathen: thou art greatly despised”. FIT the many White Nations and MANY WHITE people even tho God says other wise!

      Seeing what a great job you did with that. SHOW me how the NEGROES fit these scriptures! That should be easy for you!
      Why don’t these scriptures fit the so called “Gods Chosen”?

      1. Anonymous

        Because the Father chose Jacob/Israel’s bloodline. The bible gives the depiction of all walks of man and characteristics thereof.
        Esau; meaning red.
        Jacob/Israel, his depiction, was one of smooth skin. And the color of coal.

      2. EDOMS THORN Post author

        HOW about citing a source?

        You people have a lot of nerve. You just responded to what I said and did not prove your point buy showing me how the Negroes fit the ‘Finger Prints’ in that article, that God placed on ISRAEL! Why don’t you answer those points? You have nothing but your hatred of the white man, and your pride working for you. NOW be an adult, and lets have a debate. This crap is getting old! I have many of your peoples nonsense that I will not post because you all will not answer the points! Do you even know how to have a ‘DEBATE”?

    2. EDOMS THORN Post author

      I want to be fair, but you seem not to understand how to have a debate! You stated your claim, I asked you to back it up by making those FINGER PRINTS that God placed on ISRAEL fit the African Nations or NEGROES! Now is GOD a liar? Is HE WEAK and unable to do ALL he said concerning ISRAEL?

      While Israelites remain in other countries, America is the home of millions of all the thirteen tribes (one out of many) and thus is representative of the whole House of Jacob. We are bound by Israel’s responsibilities; fulfilling Israel’s destiny. The MARKS are on us everywhere; in our NAME; in our SABBATH; in our INSTITUTIONS; in our PHILANTHROPY; in our COMMERCE; in our WEALTH; in our MINES; in our AGRICULTURE; in our CHURCHES; in our MISSIONARY ENTERPRISES; in our ARMED FORCES; in our POSSESSION OF THE BIBLE: – all BIRTHMARKS, which neither time, nor the ages, nor even our sin can wipe out.

      1. Israel to be great and mighty nation. Gen. 12:2; 18:18; Deut. 4:7,8.

      5. Israel’s home to be north-west of Palestine. Isa. 49:12; Jer. 3:18.

      8. Israel to have a Davidic King (a perpetual monarchy within Israel). 2nd Sam. 7:13,19; 1st Chron. 22:10; 2nd Chron. 13:5; Psa. 89:20, 37; Eze. 37:24; Jer. 33:17, 21, 26.

      9. Israel to colonize and spread abroad. Gen. 28:14; 49:22; Deut. 32:8; 33:17; Psa. 2:8; Isa. 26:15; 27:6; 54:2; Zech. 10:8,9.

      10. Israel to colonize the desolate place of the earth. Isa. 35:1; 43:19, 20; 49:8; 54:3; 58:11, 12.

      0. Israel to be rich by trading. Isa. 60:5-11; 61:6.

      21. Israel to be envied and feared by all nations. Deut. 2:25; 4:8; 28:10; Isa. 43:4; 60:10, 12; Micah 7:16, 17; Jer. 33:9.

      The Bible say that ISRAEL will LEND MONEY to the Nations! When have the Negro Nations done any lending!

      IT goes on and on!

      I will not post any more of your arguments until you PROVE GOD A LIAR!

  20. kevo.bx

    *Isaiah 51:17 Awake, awake, stand up, O Jerusalem, which hast drunk at the hand of the Lord the cup of his fury; thou hast drunken the dregs of the cup of trembling, and wrung them out. *Mark 10:38 But Jesus said unto them, Ye know not what ye ask: can ye drink of the cup that I drink of? *Isaiah 51:21 Therefore hear now this, thou afflicated, and drunken, but not with wine: *Mark 10:39 And they said unto him, We can. And Jesus said unto them, Ye shall indeed drink of the cup that I drink of; *Isaiah 51:23 But I will put it into the hand of them that afflict thee; which have said to thy soul, Bow down, that we may go over: and thou hast laid thy body as the ground, and as the street, to them that went over. *Mark10:42 But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them. *Matthew 26:29 But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father’s kingdom.

  21. kevo.bx

    The red flag, the red line, even red wine that is the wrath of what Esau is drinking from the cup? (Luke 22:18) The world was warned about the red nation of people, what manner are you? Two nations of people were in Rebekah’s womb, the Syrian birth mother to Esau and Jacob. Those Jewish people take on their mother’s lineage! Jacob became Israel. Esau was always Edom from birth! Why do people lie about their age, especially women, because they despise their birthrights. *Isaiah 45:20* Miracles are the spirits of devils wood and stone (Revelation 9:20)

  22. sschmwp

    I came to the same conclusion that Edom was “Satan” sometime in mid-2009, and today I believe that I have proved my case. One thing that I overlooked is that Job’s accuser/adversary is mentioned by name in Job chapter two as you allege. If this can be proven, it would be even more proof added to the mountain of evidence that I have already accumulated. I’ll have to check it out myself later. I posted my treatise about “Satan” on my WP page, but since my time is very short and I’m not going to be able to check up on my blog, I locked the comments section. No sense in keeping a comment section open if I can’t respond to comments or deal with trolls who might post all sorts of vile garbage in the comments section (such as links to hardcore porn or other such filth).

    1. EDOMS THORN Post author

      I was able to read a good bit of your site I will come back later!
      Here is some thing I found researching for an article I am having trouble figuring out how to present, but it is coming!

      I came across “SAMAEL” and I have not found any Christian Source that deals with it but you may find this stuff of interest!

      “Those who follow the path of faith (or the heart) use water and are known as the Sons of Seth, while those who follow the path of the mind and action are the Sons of Cain, who was the son of SAMAEL , the Spirit of Fire. Today, we find the latter among the alchemists, the Hermetic philosophers, the Rosicrucians and the Freemasons.”
      Demonology and Devil Lore, 1879 – Volume 2 – Page 151 – Google Books Result
      Moncure Daniel Conway – 2003 – Body, Mind & Spirit

      (Eliphaz was the son of Esau (Samael), and his name here means that he was the Accuser in disguise. He, ‘ God’s strength,’ stands for the Law. [t affirms that … E.T. SAY that is about the Book of JOB
      [p. 20]
      SAMAEL>>Prince of the demons, and an important figure both in Talmudic and in post-Talmudic literature, where he appears as accuser, seducer, and destroyer. His name is etymologized as = “the venom of God,” since he is identical with the angel of death (Targ. Yer. to Gen. iii. 6; see also Death, Angel of), who slays men with a drop of poison (‘Ab. Zarah 20b; Kohut, “Angelologie und Dämonologie,” pp. 69, 71).
      As the incarnation of evil he is the celestial patron of the sinful empire of Rome, with which Edom and Esau are identified, http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samael
      It is said that he was the guardian angel of Esau and a patron of the Roman empire.
      …”Samael is the “chief of Satans” (Deut. R. xi. 9; Jellinek, “B. H.” i. 125), quite in the sense of “the prince of the devils” mentioned in Matt. ix. 34; but, on the other hand, he is “the great prince in heaven”… > …”All these descriptions of Samael show that he was regarded simply as the principle of evil that brought upon Israel and Judah every misfortune that befell them. Even at the creation of the world he was Lucifer, who ever sought evil and who began his malignant activity with Adam. His opponent is Michael, who represents the beneficent principle, and who frequently comes into conflict with him (comp. Jew. Encyc. viii. 536 et seq.; Lucken, “Michael,” pp. 22 et seq.). http:/www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/13055-samael

      It is late now I hope to hear from you again, MY email address lazarusliveslong@hotmail.com

      1. sschmwp

        Turns out that Eliphaz the Temanite is not mentioned as the adversary of Job, but one of his phony “friends” starting in chapter 4. There are dozens of chapters in Job that feature his “friends” running their mouths off, giving him worthless counseling. And near the end of the book of Job, God sets the record straight for Job. Whether the Book of Job is literal/historical or not (I’m doubtful), Job is poetry. “Satan” (the adversary) can be ANY adversary, and while used in this Book of poetry, it may just be a generic label given to a nameless entity that functioned as Job’s adversary. Overall, “the adversary” in proper Biblical context generally refers to Esau-Edom, but this is not always the case. Take Peter for example (Matt 16:21-23).

    2. EDOMS THORN Post author

      I did not say Eliphaz was JOBS “adversary”….

      …”In the Book of JOB, I discovered something I had over looked! It appears that “Eliphaz the Temanite” in JOB 2:11 was a son of Esau/EDOM, and was the main “earthly” accuser of JOB”…

      42:7 And it was so, that after the Lord had spoken these words unto Job, the Lord said to Eliphaz the Temanite, My wrath is kindled against thee, and against thy two friends: for ye have not spoken of me the thing that is right, as my servant Job hath.

      AS I said “ACCUSER”, you will note that Eliphaz was the first to condemn JOB and Elizaph was then joined by the other two, (as SHARKS and WOLVES will do when they smell blood) and it was Eliphaz that was named by God in 42:7 which leads me to believe that Eliphaz was like the “ring leader”.
      AND looking around I found that he was regarded as the main accuser by other Commentaries.

      Thanks for you input though.


      1. sschmwp

        Yeah, well, “accuser” is just another meaning/definition for “Satan.” I’m sure you knew that, and knew what I meant or was referring to. It is only speculation that the “Satan” mentioned in Job chapters 1 and 2 was Eliphaz, IMO. Interesting guess, though. If true, I wonder how Eliphaz infected Job with those boils, hehe. God bless.

        7854 satan saw-tawn’ from 7853; an opponent; especially (with the article prefixed) Satan, the arch-enemy of good:–adversary, Satan, withstand.

        7853 satan saw-tan’ a primitive root; to attack, (figuratively) accuse:–(be an) adversary, resist.

        4566. Satan sat-an’ of Hebrew origin (7854); Satan, i.e. the devil:–Satan. Compare 4567.

        4567. Satanas sat-an-as’ of Chaldee origin corresponding to 4566 (with the definite affix); the accuser, i.e. the devil:–Satan.

      2. sschmwp

        Once the “Satan” of Job chapters 1 and 2 took off to smite Job, he at that point became an adversary, wouldn’t you agree? The “Satan” of Job was both an accuser and an adversary in this instance. Interesting connection between Eliphaz and the “Satan” of Job 1 and 2 you have made, although not necessarily provable, IMO. I’m going to read the entire Book of Job once again now that you’ve got me interested. If anything, this proves that Eliphaz was another slanderer / false accuser, in typical Edomite fashion.

      3. EDOMS THORN Post author

        I think you understand that SATAN was from the beginning “the adversary”, and he did not become the adversary in Job, but that is not what my point was with JOB. AS the headline in that section said “Edom the “ACCUSER”… I was making the case for EDOM being an Archetype of Satan (if I am saying that right) But it is just as you said, …”in typical Edomite fashion”…

        I believe that EDOM is (so to speak) SATAN’S SEED, manifest in the FLESH (and are literally the seed of SATAN) as JACOB is GODS SEED (JEZREEL) Hosea 1:11 Then shall the children of Judah and the children of Israel be gathered together, and appoint themselves one head, and they shall come up out of the land: for great shall be the day of Jezreel.

        S.C. 3157 Jezreel = “God sows” God will plant = GOD SEED

        Did you get a look at what I posted to you concerning “SAMAEL”? I thought you might like that. I see you have put a lot of effort in what you have presented at your site! Where are those ‘comments’ from? I need to make another trip there to finish reading there. I like what you say about the “NAME” of JESUS. I have never got used to using YAWAY or what ever. Some people want to make out like not using their “NAME” is calling upon another, and NOT Christ the MESSIAH! I will have to hear a better argument than what I have heard thus far.

        MORE latter!


      4. sschmwp

        Yes, thanks. I’ll have to get back to you on the comments.

        Thought I’d add a few more thoughts.

        If the “Satan” of Job 1 and 2 was Eliphaz, I wonder why the author of this book didn’t just come right out and make this clear to us from the “get go” instead of making us speculate. By the way this book is written, it sure does seem like poetry to me. For instance, how was Eliphaz the Edomite (assuming “Satan” WAS Eliphaz) able to stand in the presence of The Lord and accuse Job directly to God’s face, while living in a flesh body? And why would God sacrifice Job’s offspring on a mere bet / challenge? Seems like overkill to me. Unless, they were a bunch of partying drunkards (they were drinking wine, and a windstorm killed ALL of them), and God decided to sacrifice them just because they were drinking alcohol (what about mercy and forgiveness?). It is written that the wind is God’s fury (Eze 13:13), which is even more proof that God, assuming the story of Job is actually LITERAL, was the one who caused the windstorm, and “Satan” didn’t have anything to do with it, although it clearly states that “Satan” was allegedly given permission to cause this damage to Job. Is this a case of God putting all of the blame on “Satan,” even though He is the one who actually caused all of these disasters? Basically, the first two chapters are awkward and open to all sorts of speculation. These first two chapters have noticeable inaccuracies and repetitions. IMHO, this great Book is poetry composed, and not actually historical. Anyway, I can fill up the comments section with my musings, but I’m calling it quits for now.

      1. EDOMS THORN Post author

        EDOM is not Russia. I did not say Russia is the Anti-Christ. Anti-Christ is a flesh and blood manifestation of SATAN.

        I do not understand the point of your post.

  23. Seed of Judah

    You are right on some parts but your claiming that western nations are Israel is waaaay off base. You’re right about the truth coming out and the truth is you western nations are Edomites too. Who is it that is red and hairy all over? So-called white people. The only people that fit Deuteronomy is the so-called American Negro. When were you guys taken captive by ships? Another thing you guys so conveniently ignore is Revelation 14 and 15. I’ve done my studying also and when they were enslaving the so-called Negro they used names like Heebo (bastardization of the word Hebrew). They even called our land Hebrewland (you guys conveniently forget to mention that).

    Black people (the American Negro = the tribe of Judah, the Jamaicans = The tribe of Benjamin, the Haitians = the tribe of Levi and there’s still a remnant of Judah still in Africa, the Lemba called by the natives Bantu – which means “the people”. Read Psalms 137 and it talks about how you guys required of us a song saying “sing us one of those songs of Zion”, which you called in modern times “Negro spirituals”. The truth is coming out and we are coming back into our lost identity.

    Read what Psalms 137 says in the end. You white people are NOT From the seed of Jacob, you are Edom. The Amalakites are the chief of our enemies (The Rothchilds, Rockefellers, Shifts, etc.). Nobody fits those curses in Deuteronomy like we do. Even the valley of the dry bones (talking about our spiritual death). When He told Daniel to prophesy to those dry bones, He was talking about us waking up from our slumber.

    You don’t have to believe me, the truth is coming out and nobody can stop it.

    1. EDOMS THORN Post author

      Hello, Thanks for you comments! But tell me! What scripture do you have concerning “taken captive by ships”?…

      The following link has forty finger prints that DO NOT fit the JEWS or the AFRICAN PEOPLE, they do however describe the Western Christian Nations! IF those EDOMITES are not ISRAEL and the African Negroes are, then they are playing the “passing card” for all it is worth!

      What you have been believing is one of EDOMS MANY FABLES! SO how about that scripture?


      1. Seed of Judah

        Deuteronomy 28 verses 1-14 describe the blessings that would overtake Israel if they obeyed the statutes, laws and commandments the Most High gave them. Verses 15-68 describe the curses that would (do, to this day) overtake Israel if they did not obey God’s laws.

        Two in particular that stand out are verse 37: “And thou shalt become an astonishment, a proverb, and a byword, among all nations whither the LORD shall lead thee”. That byword spoken of? “nigger” all over the world and 68: “And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you”. When did this happen to you? I can tell when it happened to me.

      2. EDOMS THORN Post author

        Seed of Judah,

        You fail to comprehend what you posted there where it says, …”and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you”… It says “no man shall buy you”.. That was talking about when the Ten Northern Tribe were taken into Assyrian Captivity, and NO MAN bought the Israelite s! The Negroes were bought.

        AND then we see the “CAUCUS” (CAUCASIAN) Mountains and the “Pass of Israel” were they went and settled the European Nations! ALSO note that PAUL was to Preach to the Children of Israel and was prevented from going to ANY other people!
        SAUL who Jesus named PAUL and Jesus said this of PAUL;
        Acts 9:15, “Go thy way: for he is a Chosen vessel
        unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and
        kings and the Children of Israel”:

        Judah was there in Christ’s day, and have never been “LOST”! JUDAH=JEW™
        Matthew 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
        MATT.6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

        MATT. 10:23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.

        Matthew 11:1 And it came to pass, when Jesus had made an end of commanding his twelve disciples, he departed thence to teach and to preach in their cities. (Their JEW™ Cities)

        HIS his twelve disciples, did not go to Africa or China they went to what is call Europe today!

        AND then there is this! Why does the Word of God describe the Children of Israel as;

        “The stars of heaven” Gen: 22:17
        “A thousand million” Gen. 24:60,
        “sands of the sea”. Gen. 22:17 Isa.10:22, Hosea 1:10
        The fact that the “Jews” only number around 14 million. Kind of shorts the Bible.
        Also “a company of nations” and “a multitude of nations”, Gen.35:11 Gen 49:19
        And just how many “JEW” nations are there, or have ever been?
        The bible also proclaims that Israel would possess the gate of his enemies.Gen.22:17. Umm, the “JEWS” seem to be SURROUNDED!
        I have post at the article
        http://www.edomsthorn.wordpress.com/why-dont-these-scriptures-fit-the-s OVER one hundred scriptures that describe the Children of Israel as God said of them, and they ONLY fit the Western Christian Nations.
        THOSE scriptures do not FIT The JEWS the Chinese or the African people, but they do and ONLY fit the Western Christian Nations!

        I hope that provided you with what you are missing in your effort to understand WHO Israel is today!

        Thank you.


      1. EDOMS THORN Post author

        WELL, I am glad that you provided ALL of those facts that has refuted over 43 years of research! I suppose I should shut my FACT FILLED site down now!!!!

    2. RC (@Castanza777)

      Ezekiel is talking37-1-28 talking to the whole house of Israel that is spiritually deader than a hammer …ALSO do people READ over this or do they just do it on purpose OR they don’t know how to read or count ?? fisher men peoples that draw their food from the waters , hunters , 6th day creation the RACES all the races he gave them all the duties as listed! first Adam Genesis1: 24-27, 2:1-4 !!He looked and it was VERY GOOD THEN HE RESTED 7th day THAN as it is written the 8th day creation 2nd Adam! ADAM and EVE from which Christ would come !!!WHY do you think SATAN came in the garden TO POISEN the seed of CHRIST >>>> THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL you sir are so wrong how did all the races come to be ?did you ever think about that??when the Bible declares just what it says and than He said in chapter 2:5 THE LORD GOD realized he did not have a man to till the ground a husbandman,, than not untill verse 21 does he form Eve!! Remember 1 day with the LORD is as a 1,000 yrs with man DEAR FATHER THEY KNOW NOT WHO or what they are thats all i am going to say for now

  24. Randy Littleton

    Dear Edoms Thorn, I’ve encountered you briefly at Info Wars, and again while doing some research on Aryanism. Scowel, is my pseudonym, maybe you remember me, we discussed : Leviathan.
    So, I read your post and found it to be very informative and interesting.
    This is a division I had not considered before, it lends a credibility to the “British,” superiority argument but through what means do consign all of Ham’s descendants to Edom’s past wrongs, which appear to manifest themselves in: “Skin pigmentation? OR Blood types” perhaps? I have no problems with racial purity but I am from a mongrelized linage to say the least. I don’t think G-d hates me for that reason. But a tree is known by it’s fruit, maybe… Take a look at Jeremiah, chapter 9. Who do you think is being addressed in this passage and specifically verse 15, with an eye toward our own circumstances here in the good ol USA. Do you not also connect the condition of a people with whatever spiritual influences they entertained leading up to whatever they’ve become as a people?
    Sence Y’shua, I think everyone is responsible for his own choices,
    We still get to choose the Truth or the Lie, and in the end we will not
    Be able to blame Edom’s or the devil or race or Mom and Pop.
    Hey, where does repentance fit in to your statement? And, you never told me exactaly who you think “Leviathan,” represents.
    G-d bless, Scowel

    1. EDOMS THORN Post author

      Randy my friend, not only do I remember you, I always read your post’s at I.W. I saw your comment here about 30 minutes after you made it, but was DEEP in a rabbit hole, again, and at the same time I received an email I had been waiting for concerning another article I am writing, and while I have been in and out of that rabbit hole for three days, (coming out in several “courtyards” leading to many other HOLES) that email was very important for another article I have been working on for a long time! I hope you will click on the “follow me” button above in the side bar, as I know you will have an interest in both of those future post’s!

      It is amazing that two of your points that you mentioned, have two, in varying degrees, points of relevance to the one article of which I have been researching for the past few days!

      Ezekiel 32:27 And they shall not lie with the mighty that are fallen of the uncircumcised, which are gone down to hell with their weapons of war: and they have laid their swords under their heads, but their iniquities shall be upon their bones, though they were the terror of the mighty in the land of the living”… JUST a clue! And that clue is in part the answer to your question about “Leviathan,”

      And . Jeremiah, chapter 9:26 and Ezekiel 32:29 are also corresponding verse’s, and relevant to my article.

      I will respond to your points further, but for now I thank for your interest and hope you will return here to this little site!


      1. RC (@Castanza777)

        leviathan> IS SATAN that’s all just another name of The DEVIL! Isaiah 27:1 In that day the Lord with His sore and great and strong sword shall punish* leviathan *the piercing serpent even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay thee dragon that is in the sea …Rev 20:10,Rev.20:2 Job41:1, Psalms74:14 , 104:26 Isaiah 27:1, leviathan>>> serpent,,the constellation of the dragon also as a symbol of Babylon ,,also meaning mourning ……Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance Hebrew Dic.

  25. Stop Chasing Ghosts

    Whatever, man. I never heard of CI before and I never even knew what you were talking about. I am not going to read the Jew book bible. I am not supporting your stupid CI, so why can’t you leave me alone? Jesus christ good-bye.

    1. EDOMS THORN Post author

      FOOL! That is why you should shut your IGNORANT FACE! You make claims that Christian Identity is a lie , and admit you know nothing about C.I. or the BIBLE?

      WHY, you ask, can’t I leave you alone??? ARE you pretending to be the victim now? LOL You are to funny!

      AS I said, …”JUST WAIT”…

    1. EDOMS THORN Post author

      YOU lie! What questions? I welcome disagreement! But all you have to offer is AD HOMINIM attacks and baseless claims! I am not like you. deleting dissenting comments! AS YOU KNOW I save or have record of all correspondence! SO WHAT are you talking about?

    1. EDOMS THORN Post author

      Stop Chasing Ghosts
      No way will I leave you alone! You have been warned to stop with your attacks with out Bible or Historical FACTS to back it up! YOUR treacherous act of manipulating my words will NOW be made public! BRACE yourself TROLL, it will not be pretty as I told you before! You have crossed the line THREE times now! AS I will later provide for ALL to see, your treachery! The first time you ADDED to my words I was willing to let it go and attribute it to your eagerness and lack of knowledge! But you have exhibited the the tactics of an A.D.L. TROLL or some such pro Zionist agent!

      I do hate this! And I hate it even more that I have to clutter up MY comment section with your posts that admit your treachery! BUT I told you it would not be pretty!

      ENJOY FOOL!!


      1. EDOMS THORN Post author

        THE SCUM known as Stop Chasing Ghosts THREATENS me with …”i have friends in cia that got your ip…. have fun son”…

        EDOMS THORN can only die once! You fool, your C.I.A. buddies” (LOL) have had my NAME since 1993! Your weak and ignorant threats cause me no fear! You on the other hand will see that “He that is in me is greater than he that is in the world”!

        JESUS THE CHRIST is LORD and you WILL CONFESS HIM in the end!


  26. Anthony Clifton

    excellent work…

    it is impossible for a Dallas Cowboy to be at the Alamo snorting coke with a prostitute

    so it is impossible to put a “Jew” [khazar proselyte] in the Old Testament

    you are very correct to focus on the enemies of Israel – The people –
    who are the Israelite nations of the 1st world nations…of the ‘christian west ‘


    I met Willie shortly before he was called Home…


    on a side note, if you’ve read Mullins’ Curse of Canaan, you might be interested in taking a look at Michael Tellinger and Zechariah Sitchin…

    Overcoming ignorance is a full time Job –

    Jesus said…Know the Truth

    you’re headed up the mountain of truth…

    and it is a steep climb sometimes

    1. EDOMS THORN Post author

      And this is why I have three unfinished articles to post here. Thanks! LOL I am headed up a mountain of truth, there is no doubt. The truth does not end with one statement or many! To simply say ‘rain is wet’ is true, but if you break it down to a molecular level, and separate those elements that make up rain, we find that rain is a combination of things that are not wet. To determine what is ‘truth’ is indeed a “steep climb.” SO my ‘THANKS’ was for bring to my attention that link to Willie Martin. http://www.israelect.com/reference/WillieMartin/ISAAC-13.htm MORE to research!
      I do not remember reading that from him. I have read a lot of his writings and he was a Voice in the Wilderness for those that have ‘ears to hear’.

      For twenty years I have spent very little time talking about the symptoms of the disease, The FED, WARS, IMMIGRATION etc….. only to point out who it is that has FORCED them on us, and how the ‘WHO’ are specifically targeting the Children of ISRAEL, and are intended for our destruction! In the Protocols for example, #10 proclaims the “inoculation of disease”.

      I must stop here, it NEVER ENDS!
      Thanks for Harry Chapin, I always liked his music but I never heard that before. I like!
      If it is not a problem I may email you for more encouragement!!



  27. a8879

    Edom, I don’t have a problem with anyone who names the Jew as a deceiver, but you are peddling Christian Identity and British Israelism, which is a hoax. The White nations are not Israel. I just started reading about this when you first contacted me and I kind of jumped on your bandwagon because you are exposing the Jew, but I can’t support these views, sorry. Saying that the West, Europe, and America is Israel is a lie. No one is a chosen person, and I don’t believe anyone on this world is special. Thinking that Whites are a chosen people opens you up for White Supremacism, which is what I am trying to expose the Jew as. I just want to mind own business, and not think I am viewed as special in God’s eyes.


    1. EDOMS THORN Post author

      a8879 I see that I have wasted my time with you at every point! That is evidenced by your post’s on here, and your many emails, were you display the reading comprehension skills of a third grader! I don’t know if you are pretending not to understand what you read, or even IF you have read anything I have presented. Irregardless, you have shown that you have zero knowledge of the Word of God, and are blind to the proof of the truth, as I have shown, that can be seen in the world! You are like so many that I have seen at InfoWars, commenting on things they know nothing about, yet they state their opinions based on their very limited knowledge! I will tell you (and probably have at I.W.s) you need to shut up and listen to the ADULTS and research what they say, before commenting, making yourself look the FOOL!

      Simply saying “Christian Identity a lie” is only an unsubstantiated CLAIM!

      YOU and your two sources are both Bible ILLITERATES! Having dealt with your emails and foolishness, I am losing patients.

      Your source, ‘Ken Adachi’ is the best you could come up with? He is right up there with your friend ALEX JONES! Both of your ‘sources’ are very biased, full of half truths and omitting many facts. Proving you are a willing ignorant, self-impressed, Proverbs 18:2 FOOL!

      YOU should have posted some links to your JEW friends at the ADL and SPLC! All of the so called proof that there is no God, and those ‘sources’ that call Christian Identity ‘racist’ and anti-Semitic are the true RACIST and ANTISEMITES! They hate C.I. truth. and white people, THE True SEMITES!! So keep using the JEWS terms and hang on to your ATHEISM, it is the JEW that is your teachers! They seek to destroy Gods People and you are following them to your destruction!

      AND finally, you told me to delete all of your post’s! First of all I want people to see your abject ignorance, and your use of the JEWS terms for truth tellers! That says a lot about who and what you are!

      Secondly, IF I was to delete your post’s, I would be no better than Alex Jones, the JEW run media or YOU! Silencing descent or disagreement is tyrannical!

      May God open your eye’s!


      1. Stop Chasing Ghosts

        they did the same thing I did to you. WordPress sucks for that – the editing of comments. What I did isn’t right, I know that. I think you should be able to outright delete comments, but not edit.

      2. Stop Chasing Ghosts

        sorry man, if I knew what CI was before I knew you I’d never let your posts through or even be affiliated. Sorry bud. I don’t know all the ins and outs either.

    2. keruxreplies

      a8 879, You’ve given your opinion, but where are the facts upon which you base your opinion?

      CI (much more so than BI, who believed the jews are Judah and are thus a false teaching) has overwhelming historical, archaeological and Biblical evidence in support of its teaching.

      The jews are not whites. They are a mixed race people, as Edom’s Thorn and many others are pointing out, and descend from Cain/Esau/Khazarian origins.

      As for White Supremacism, be careful of using jew vocabulary: that is how they control the conversation regarding just about every important topic: religion, race, etc. Simply look around the world today. Which nations are developed nations? ALL white nations. Which nations are undeveloped or “developing? All non-white nations. If not for us whites, the non-whites would still be undeveloped. We fund the progress in the white nations – by visiting, living there, as in Thailand, the Philippines, Costa Rica, etc. or by our charity. Why is that?

      If you are white you ARE special in the Creator’s eyes. The entire Bible is a white history book. You’ll understand that once you study it in light of CI teaching.

      Best regards. Kerux

      1. EDOMS THORN Post author


        WELL SAID! I was going to show the difference between C.L. and B.I. The British Israelism was a response and a tool to deceive and distract from the truth! Up untill about 1985 I thought the the JEWS were of JUDAH! As I said before there may be a very small number of Judah that call themselves Jews today, but I believe that they did in fact hear Jesus’ voice!

        Now to the …”Khazarian origins”… I think that the Jews claim that, because they can NOT call themselves EDOM, and that is just one more smokescreen. Remember EDOM vanished from history in 70 A.D.

        Thank you for your support!



    3. RC (@Castanza777)

      no one is more special but there are His election and remnant that will always stand for and with Christ the ONES he can always count on How many can the Father do you think he can count on?surly NOT children of Satan and not those who hate him so I guess HE does have His special people you can say

  28. keruxreplies

    As you mentioned, the reason Esau sold his birthright so cheap – for a bowl of porridge – is because he had previously made his birthright worthless by race mixing – he married Hittite wives – daughters of Heth, Genesis 27:46 causing much turmoil for his mother Rebekah. He never repented but instead married another wife from outside his family line – an Ishmaelite woman. Genesis 28:9 Esua produced nothing but race-mixed children, mongrels. Scripture refers to this as “broken cisterns” Jer. 2:13 “clouds without water,” Jude 12 “wells w/o water.” 2 Peter 2:17, etc.

    1. Garth

      It’s not the race so much as it was against what God told them to do. And this is because the other people’s where not chosen. You guys that are fixed on race are none to bright. Especially in the US. The races are so mixed it’s not even funny.
      If you are born again then you have been adopted as a child of God. You can forget about race at that point because the Holy Spirit knows your true race and no Edomite will be saved. But don’t think for one minute that YOU know a mans true race. YOU are not God.
      We as Christians are told to love our enemies. So if you are aware of a true Edomite(s) by some miraculous knowledge then you should love them. Are you being obedient?

      1. keruxreplies

        ” The races are so mixed it’s not even funny.” Yep, you are correct. However Yahweh hates race mixing. Do not commit adultery should be translated “Do not adulterate your race, do not race mix.” Unlawful intercourse with a married man or woman is covered in Commandment #10. “Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors wife.” With only Ten Commands, you don’t think Yahweh would repeat himself, do you? All this race mixing has been pushed on the White race by the Jew media. All the while the demand their race marry within their own race.

        We are to love our Israelite brethren enemies, not our non-racial enemies. What a ridiculous idea – loving those outside your race who are your enemies. Does that mean we are to hate the other races? No. But to love those who are your enemies and who may want to harm you and even kill you is ridiculous. If this is true, why did Christ tell us to sell our outer garment and buy a sword if we did not have a sword to defend ourselves with? Luke 22:36 None too bright on your part.

        Only those “born from above” (not born again as erroneously translated) can be “saved.” Christ Himself clearly said in plain language “I have NOT come but for the lost sheep of the house, (or family, or descendants) of Israel.” Meaning Jacob/Israel’s offspring, ie, the Caucasian race.

        You are good at parroting what you’ve been taught, but have little true and accurate knowledge of Scripture.

      2. EDOMS THORN Post author

        Hello, Where have you been?

        Just a few points to make concerning you comment.

        Luke 22:36.
        Patriots are many times taking LUKE 22:36 out of context as a call to bear arms.
        That passage had NOTHING to do with the Romans or tyranny!
        Reading in context you will see that they were to protect against “false flag” attack

        LUKE 22:36-37 “Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it,
        and likewise his scrip: (SEE Matthew 10) and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
        37.>> “For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me,
        And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end”…

        AS it was with King HEROD, the EDOMITE who was Satanically led to murder the infant Jesus,
        Jesus knew that the forces of Satan would try to prevent the Prophesy’s regarding Messiah
        from being fulfilled!

        Would Jesus want us to resist tyranny? Yes! But Luke 22:36 was not about TYRANNY!!

        There is only one reason God loved ISRAEL above all of the other sons of ADAM.
        And it was FAITH, Not RACE!

        Deuteronomy. 32:8, ” When the Most High divided to the nations their inheritance,
        when He separated the sons of Adam, He set the bounds of the people according
        to the number of the Children of Israel”.

        Deuteronomy 20:17: …”But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites,
        and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites;
        as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee:”…
        NOW, throughout scripture, those are the ONLY enemies of God and His People.

        DID ADAM ‘father’ the the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites,
        the Hivites, and the Jebusites?

    2. Roy

      This is a response to Kerux regarding the idea of ‘born again’………….

      3 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.” 4 “How can someone be born when they are old?”

      Nicodemus asked. “Surely they cannot enter a second time into their mother’s womb to be born!”

      Nicodemus would not have responded the way he did had Jesus said, ‘no on can see the kingdom of God unless they were first born in heaven, or born from above.’

      NIcodemus is very specific — ‘surely they cannot enter a second time into their mother’s womb’.

      Why would Nicodemus even use the word “womb” if Jesus said ‘born from above’.

      How do you believe it erroneous??? I’ve never understood this line of thinking. The New Testament is also supportive of this idea of a “change” in Spirit. The “New Creation” as an example. I do not see anything wrong with believing ‘born-again’ simply means to be born-again in spirit. Born-again in mind. Like Repentance — to turn away from.

      Then Jesus says, “5 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit. 6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit[b] gives birth to spirit. 7 You should not be surprised at my saying, ‘You must be born again.’

      Seems very clear to me. Jesus never corrects Nicodemus for using the words “to enter” and “womb”.

      1. keruxreplies

        “Nicodemus would not have responded the way he did had Jesus said, ‘no on can see the kingdom of God unless they were first born in heaven, or born from above.’” Saying that Nicodemus would not have responded had Jesus said what he said, you’ve made the mistake of thinking they spoke in English. The word for both born “again,” and born “from above” is G509 – anōthen. In other words, anōthen is one word that can be translated more than one way. KJV choose to translate anōthen as “born again,” but could just as easily chosen “born from above.”
        To say that if Jesus has used “born from above,” Nicodemus would not have answered as he did is pure speculation. Further, as stated above, anōthen can mean either.
        Strong’s defines anothen :
        from above, from a higher place
        of things which come from heaven or God
        from the first, from the beginning, from the very first
        anew, over again

        The questions asked of Nicodemus, indicates his misunderstanding of what Jesus was saying: “Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb, and be born?”

        Jesus’ answer doesn’t have anything to do with a physical rebirth, but “Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.” And, “That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born from above. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it comes, and whither it goes: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

        “Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?”
        “Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?”

        Later, in the same passage, we find: “For God so loved the the Israelite Society, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”

        English word translated “world” here is kosmos, of which the first and primary meaning is, order, harmonious arrangement, order, government,” and can just as well be translated “Society.”

        This understanding and use of the word, kosmos, as Society, is in harmony with the rest of Scripture, wherein the word “world” is not: no where in Scripture do we find that Christ died for the entire world of non-Israelite peoples:

        “I have NOT come, but for the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

        How much plainer did He have to say who he came for?

        The idea that any one, no matter of what race, can “accept Jesus into their heart, and be “born again,” is not found in Scripture.

        “Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?”

        As for this statement:
        “The problem with “some” people in CI is that they too want to believe in a version of OSAS. They hang on to the passage — all Israel will be saved — to teach and believe every Israelite will see the Kingdom of Heaven no matter his walk. Which is also a false doctrine. ‘Sin’ can and will keep us from the Kingdom upon our death. ”

        Agreed. I’m not one of the “some.” Many examples exist of Israelites not “making it.”

      2. Roy

        Question for Kerux —

        Were there White Tribal Families that existed during the time Abraham was chosen? Of course your answer is YES.

        So what about them… Are they excluded from the Kingdom? Yes the Scriptures clearly point out that Jesus came for the lost sheep of the house of Israel. No one can deny that. But does this exclude Adamites not part of Abraham’s seed???

        I understand your point of wanting to put an emphasis on ‘born from above’. But CI makes too big of a deal on this insistence. It can mean simply both – born again or born from above. Both are the same. And BOTH require repentance – a change of life; a change of spirit; a change of mind.

        You want to exclude the non-white races. Ok. Go ahead. For me I am not going to tell a crowd of 100 black people claiming to worship ‘jesus’ that they have no business doing so. You do it. 🙂

        Probably the reason we don’t have a worse murder rate by blacks against whites is that at least some of them are actually trying to follow the Law. I’m not about to tell them they are wasting their time being civil.

      3. Roy

        Kerux wrote —

        The idea that any one, no matter of what race, can “accept Jesus into their heart, and be “born again,” is not found in Scripture.

        I tend to agree with you. But as I said elsewhere, I’m not going to stop a Chinaman from reading his bible. My standard for whether a person is indwelt with the Holy Spirit is much higher than skin color. Let’s get back to OBEDIENCE! http://www.areyoumarried.wordpress.com

    3. Roy

      Only those “born from above” (not born again as erroneously translated) can be “saved.”

      “Born-Again” is not erroneous as it relates to the passage. Nicodemus response — ‘How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?’ — is consistent with Jesus saying, ‘a man must be born again’. Had Jesus said, “born from above”, I doubt very much Nicodemus would have responded with his statement in ‘bold’.

      I spent a good 5 years in the brick and mortar churches contending for the faith refuting the false doctrine of Once Saved Always Saved. Then I found CI. The problem with “some” people in CI is that they too want to believe in a version of OSAS. They hang on to the passage — all Israel will be saved — to teach and believe every Israelite will see the Kingdom of Heaven no matter his walk. Which is also a false doctrine. ‘Sin’ can and will keep us from the Kingdom upon our death.

      I understand your reaction to someone saying that all you have to do is “believe” and you will be saved….regardless of race. But to say that the Adamite must be born-again to see the Kingdom is not erroneous. Much of the New Testament speaks to a conversion — a conversion of Spirit. A conversion of Mind. And a conversion of the will. Just to be white is no guarantee of Salvation.

      1. EDOMS THORN Post author


        Good to see you again! The following is from “conversation” I had with an Christian Identity ” ADHERENT, and he could not speak to my points! I believe that EDOM has taken the truth of OUR ISRAEL IDENTITY, and injected “RACISM” to destroy the truth, and keep people from even HEARING the truth!

        ISRAEL are the “Apple of His eye” Deuteronomy 32:10 and do have preeminence above all Nations. That is why God will plant them in what we call the Middle east today.
        Ezekiel 37:25-26 “And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children’s children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever. Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.”

        Now ISRAEL in the future, (in Ezekiel 37:25-26) are in the land that God promised them, but we see that there are Nations that are yet in the world during the Kingdom of God and the Messiahs reign on earth!

        Micah 4:3 “And he shall judge among many people, and rebuke strong nations afar off; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.”

        Revelation 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
        Revelation 21:24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
        Revelation 21:26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.

        THERE are others, besides ISRAEL in the world to come!!!

        Deut. 32:8, ” When the Most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when He separated the sons of Adam, He set the bounds of the people according to the number of the Children of Israel”.( “bounds of the people” are all but Jacobs seed) Note: The ‘Native American’s were a nomadic people, that found their way here. They left the land God set aside for them. but God had reserved this land for ISRAEL.

        The fact is, the Geek are of JAPHETH from his son Javan. Every “Table Of Nations” that I have studied all said the same thing. ‘JAVAN” People of Greece and Cyprus. As their father Japheth, the early Greeks worshiped him as IAPETOS, or IAPETUS.

        Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek”.
        Romans 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him”.
        Galatians 2:3 But neither Titus, who was with me, being a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised:”
        Colossians 3:10-11 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him: Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all”.
        G 5301 Titus = “nurse”
        a Gentile Christian and Paul’s companion in some of his journeys (WE see here a HEATHEN CHRISTIAN)

        In Zechariah 8:23 Thus saith the Lord of hosts; In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard that God is with you. In Zechariah 8:23 “JEW” is S.C. 376 = Man + S.C. 3064 = Man of JUDAH (From my hard copy of S.C.) ALSO S.C. 2453 in my Hard Copy shows it is ‘FROM’ S.C. 2448 and 2455

        God love ISRAEL above all others! But ALL of the sons of ADAM are able to be “SAVED”, not just ISRAEL!

  29. keruxreplies

    Takes much time and effort to write and keep up a blog. E.T., Thanks for your time, effort and energy fighting white man’s enemy – the Cain/Esau/Edomite/Khazarian jew.

    1. EDOMS THORN Post author

      keruxreplies Thank you for encouragement and time. As evidenced by your web site’s, you are indeed a ‘HERALD’!

      As we know, the attack on ‘ADAM Man’, began with Satan then Cain/Esau/Edomite/Khazarian Jew, that synagogue of Satan JEW, that gennēma of VIPERS, as Jesus called them!

      I meant to point out that the word, ‘generation’ in Matthew 23 is in the original Greek ‘offspring’ But I DID point out that Jesus knew exactly who they were, as did everyone there in His day!
      S.C. 1081 GREEK ‘gennēma’
      1) that which has been born or begotten
      a) the offspring or progeny of men or animals
      Matthew 23:31-33 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

      Thanks to those Vipers in the Seminaries, and our willing ignorant Preachers, so much of the truth of Gods Word has been hidden! All you and I can do is try to point out the truth, and Pray that JEZREEL will hear! Hosea 1:11

      Thanks again,


  30. BKS

    I have been thinking along the same lines about edom….But i find myself wondering if i could be wrong…i do not want to falsely accuse anyone….but then i read other teachings like this one and see YHWH is revealing this to me. Shalom, BKS

    1. EDOMS THORN Post author

      BKS One thing that is certain is that Israel and JUDAH are still in the world, as is EDOM! Another thing that is certain is those Forty Finger Prints I posted in the article, …’Why don’t these Scriptures fit the so called GODS ‘CHOSEN’?’… do not FIT the JEWS.™ I should have made mention of Deuteronomy 28, because that too has never, nor will ever apply to the JEWS,™ but they do describe America, and the Western Nations! TO a ‘T’. It has happened and is happening today!

      Thank you BKS for your input.



  31. Major Tom

    Edom it look’s like you put a lot of effort into this article. You have given me a lot to think about! I’ll read it over again, but it looks like you are on to something! Keep up the good work!

    P.S. Your about me page will not load! Thanks.

    1. EDOMS THORN Post author

      MAJOR Are you in the military? Thank you for you kind assessment, it was many hours over three days and duplicating my research from years past. It is my labor of love. We do not light a candle, and then hide it under a basket! I have seen the ENEMY and he is EDOM! I am merely a voice in the wilderness, a WATCHMAN!
      AND I KNOW my ‘about me’ page won’t load! I can not find it, or figure out how to produce another one. I am no computer ‘geek’, anyone have any idea’s what I did? HELP!!

      Thanks again.



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