God Guns and GUTS.

“It Works the Same in Every Country”

Hello Brother ADASK.

After reading this article and THEN your response to ‘SweaterCups40’ My reply to your post has become more than I had intended. But as you said;

…”This blog is intended to be a place where, by reason of using my intellect and by reason of using the intellects of my readers, we can “exercise” our senses so as to develop and “sharpen” our individual capacities to discern between good and evil, right and wrong”…

AND that provoked me to go into a little more detail in my response.

Here is the foundation to my approach to understanding;

Hosea 4:6 “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge : because thou hast rejected knowledge I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me”… WE are responsible for OUR knowledge or lack of Knowledge. KJV >

II TIMOTHY 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
DIVIDING: S.C. GREEK 3718 “orthotomeo” to make straight, cut, to DISSECT!

II Cor. 10:12 “For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise,”
In other words think for yourself!

Revelation 21:8 came up in a blog I was involved in about Gun Control a few weeks ago, and one of the posters had used the word ‘cowardice’ as you did. I am sure that you were not quoting from the KJV, and this is not an attack on what you said, I wanted to share with you some of what came from that conversation.

I argued that ‘cowardice’ should not be used there because it does not define the word for fearful that is used in the original Greek and therefore cowardice was not a sin deserving eternal damnation.
Cowardice as a word is not found in the KJV, but in the dictionary it is defined as an; ‘Ignoble fear in the face of danger or pain’. and ignoble is; ‘Not honorable in character or purpose’.

I said that while I may be willing to go toe to toe with someone in a fist fight, I could be ‘fearful in two ways. One is the fear of getting hurt or the fear of hurting my opponent beyond what is necessary. So ‘fearfulness’ in that manner is not COWARDICE, but is a ‘prudent’ fear. And later I thought about it, and came to the conclusion that in a sense we were both correct, but the word cowardly does NOT belong there!

The following is the results of my research on ‘fearful’
I deal with the differences in the footnotes of my featured article at edomsthorn.wordpress.com between my hard copy of the Strong’s Concordance pre-1980, and the on-line version http://www.biblestudytools.com/concordances/strongs-exhaustive-concorda…
And there are some important differences.

This is for the word for ‘fearful’, in Revelation 21:8
S.C. G1169 Blueletter

‘deilos’ timid, fearful
( adds faithless pre-1980 S.C.) a root word from ‘deos’ (dread)

AND this is for ‘fearful’ in Hebrews 10:26-27
S.C. BlueLetter ‘phoberos’ G5398

1) inspiring fear, terrible, formidable
2) affected with fear, timid

S.C.Pre-1980 G5398
frightful: be a formidable; fearful, terrible

Hebrews 10:26-27 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

Hebrews 10:27 and Revelation 21:8 shows two applications of the word fearful, with an identical end result!
SO, I came to the conclusion, because ‘unbeliever’ is the next word used there in Revelation 21:8, and denotes ‘faith’ the proper word there should be ‘TIMID’ as in Lukewarm Revelation 3:16
Just thought you might find that interesting. I do not write as well as you, I do hope you understood my point.

On that thread from above, that conversation had began with a poster proclaiming that Jesus had told the Apostles to arm themselves (LUKE 22) “against the Roman Tyranny”! And that leads me to your question, …”Does Revelation 21:8 provide a spiritual basis for the 2nd Amendment?”… I think you will agree, the answer is no. We do however, know that we are to resist EVIL and defend ourselves, and we are to EXPOSE evil! With out going into the study of Matthew 26:52 most always quoted out of context! (Live by the sword, etc.) As you pointed out, to die for our faith is LIFE, If we should defend ourselves, for our FAITH, and save our ‘life’ we will surely lose it! It is so refreshing to read your writings,

Patriots are many times taking LUKE 22:36 out of context as a call to bear arms.
That passage had NOTHING to do with the Romans! Read in context and you will see that they were to protect against “false flag” attack

LUKE 22:36-37 “Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. 37.>> For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end”…

AS it was with King HEROD, the EDOMITE who was Satanically led to murder the infant Jesus, Jesus knew that the forces of Satan would try to prevent the Prophesy’s regarding Messiah from being fulfilled!

Would Jesus want us to resist tyranny? Yes! But Luke 22:36 was not about TYRANNY!!

I thank you for the opportunity to “exercise” yours and my senses.


It is also interesting to note in Hebrews 10:26-27 there are to use’s of the word ‘SIN’ there, and I wonder if someone can tell us what ‘SIN’ it is that is called WILLFUL? It is an actionable sin!
And is found in Revelation 21:8

Just for fun!


7 thoughts on “God Guns and GUTS.

    1. EDOMS THORN Post author

      Anthony WHAT FACTS? Your unreliable link, wikipedia does not address ..”Gog & Magog are the Ashkenazim “Proselytes”…Talmud makes a “Jews”” I do not have the time to chase your links that lead nowhere and have nothing to do with the POST at hand! If you have a point to make with your links then present a paragraph or two stating your point!

      You asked. …”how do “Jews” get into the Old Testament ?”… DID you read my post on JACOB and ESAU??? I answered that question there.

      YOU will not address and answer my question from last night?? If we are going to do this I expect to have my questions answered and my points addressed!
      So lets take thing in an orderly fashion!


      1. EDOMS THORN Post author

        Why do you post another comment with out address my points and question?
        If I wanted my questions and points to be IGNORED I would not have started this blog, I would still be at InfoWars being crapped on by the ADL TROLLS!

        I have my response ready to your post from last night, but we WILL proceed in an orderly fashion addressing each others points accordingly or NOT AT ALL!


  1. Anthony Clifton

    l’enfant terrible – Isaiah 3 12





    Israel – She’s not a “Jew”

    Purim at the Wall –
    Women of the Wall member describes struggle to pray at {sacred Jewish} ***OXYMORON*** site in a manner traditionally preserved for men *** [Language police]***

    Adar is the Hebrew month of masquerade, parody, and inversion, the month of Purim. In the Scroll of Esther, we reveal hidden links between ancient Persia and contemporary Jerusalem.


    Khazar GOG & MAGOG Rabbi Shmuel Rabinowitz reigns over the Western Wall and all of the holy sites throughout the modern TALMUDIC TERRORIST State of ****{{{ Israel }}}****


    TALMUDIA, actually GOG & MAGOG.


    How do Khazars GOG & MAGOGS get into the Old Testament as all 12 Tribes…?

    Israel is a people….not a Place for Paranoid schizophrenic PROSELYTES to Talmudic Judaism to engage in Identity theft and Murder and all the crimes against humanity that one can imagine

    Bundling Tares…tearing down alters

    1. EDOMS THORN Post author


      Brother Nathanael in that link you posted asked twice if there was a “Genetic Code set in place that sets off an automatic hostility toward the Gospel?”

      That question is actually the base’s for my site. IT is rooted in the seed of Cain/EDOM to HATE the Sons of ADAM through ABRAHAM, because it is through that seed-line that Messiah has come, for the SOLE PURPOSE of putting down Lucifer’s Rebellion to God once and for all, right HERE on earth! ALL of Gods Creation in the ‘Heavens’ are watching and waiting for SATAN’S END! And I believe that was Gods reason in creating ADAM MAN! That is an article I am working on! THAT hatred is why it is going so poorly for the White man today!

      I have seen you post twice now, that the Askanzi are …”PROSELYTES to Talmudic Judaism”… MY research and observations seems to point out that that is just one of EDOMS many Fables. Did I get it wrong in my post,”EDOM: THE STORY Of JACOB AND ESAU Is Not Just A Story, in the section “BOUNTY AND GENOCIDE on Judah”? Did I get it wrong?

      I see the Book of ESTHER held out by Atheists as proof that God is evil and contradictory. AND I see some Christian Identity folks use Esther as proof of the SO CALLED JEWS murderous ways! Both groups have taken Esther out of context to arrive at their conclusions. They both seemingly believe that the word “JEWS” belong there, and is representative of those SO CALLED JEWS of today! I have refuted both points.

      The Ashkenaz, son of Gomer, son of Japheth, have no Genetic link to Ham. EDOM married into the HAMITIC seed-line as I have pointed out in the above mentioned article. Gen. 26:34-35 That FABLE that the JEWS claim to be Ashkenazi is necessary, in order to hide their true IDENTITY. They could not admit that they are of EDOM, because that would show that what Obadiah, Malachi 1:1-4 and EZK. Ch. 35 and 36 is true! That they are in fact, …”the people against whom the Lord hath indignation forever”… The ASHKENAZI do not posses that “GENETIC CODE” and it should be evident that the JEWS are not of JAPHETH.

      In response to the Video ‘It’s time to tear the Alters Down’ it brings me to another out of context ‘rant’.
      Deuteronomy 20:16 I see that thrown out there by unbelievers all of the time, in an attempt to portray God as contradictory and evil! I find my self many times, having to tell Christians, that while it is nice to quote Scripture, it is best to do so in context, with understanding. The most important part of Deuteronomy 20 is not ever mentioned!
      Deuteronomy 20:16 But of the cities of these people, which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:

      It is in the next verse’s that is important; 17-18 …”But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the Lord thy God hath commanded thee: That they teach you not to do after all their abominations, which they have done unto their gods; so should ye sin against the Lord your God”…

      Understanding who those people were then is very important. They were ALL of the Sons of CAIN, through the son of NOAH named HAM! They are all Canaanite nations! And for us today it is important to understand that the Children of Israel did NOT do as God commanded, and the Bible tells what will happen as a result of Israels disobedience, and that was in short, that they would be a curse on Israel and eek out Israels substance! Bottom line is, for us today also, EDOM (the so called JEWS) married into that seed of CAIN, and are now a curse on TRUE ISRAEL today!

      Thanks for that link to Pastor Pete Peters! I have not heard that message from him since the mid 90’s. I have talked to Pastor Pete many time on his Short Wave Radio Broadcast! He is missed!

      Thanks for your input Anthony.


    2. EDOMS THORN Post author

      Anthony, As your post above did not deal with the article “God, Guns and Guts” I did address your post and made some points that I feel should have been addressed by you. I did establish what I perceive as a pattern of Edom claiming to be something they are not, and I used the Book of Esther to further my case! DID I get ESTHER wrong?

      And what does this mean? …”TALMUDIA, actually GOG & MAGOG”…

      I will get to your other post in the morning.


    3. EDOMS THORN Post author

      Anthony, I found a post you Submitted, that got picked up as ‘SPAM’ by my wordPress filter, on 2013/02/18 at 9:23 am that starts with, …”And Gideon didn’t have access to a 50 cal”… it was nearly 9,000 Characters long with NINE links, none of which have anything to do with “God, Guns and GUTS”. Aside from that, I have no time or interest in vetting your links. Sorry. I do not do news articles here so I do not care what the STINKING JEWS are doing at ‘The Forward’ news site.. http://forward.com/articles/171250/the-forward-says-good-bye-to-mister-katz/

      AND as you found I deleted your link to the JEW SCUM ‘Jackie Mason’! Why do you think I or my readers give a CRAP about JACKIE MASON?? I wasted my time looking for something related to the topic at hand!

      Most people understand that they should STAY on TOPIC! A little extra is okay, but you want to write Books and lead to unrelated research!

      It is VERY easy to set up a WEBSITE! I mean no offense by saying this!



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