Why don’t these Scriptures fit the so called GODS ‘CHOSEN’?

Why does the Word of God go against what the world believes? The WORD is from God, and the gOD of this  WORLD are in opposition to each  other! The ENEMY of JACOB has been trying to steal the BLESSING God gave to True ISRAEL, and ESAU/EDOM have joined with CAIN to destroy US, True Israel!

^^^ However, it is a matter of inspired record that God placed “marks” on His people Israel. During the Christian dispensation, Lost Israel was to possess these marks of identification. So then, if we can discover the nations and people with Israel’s marks, we have found the people whom God chose to serve Him to be a channel of blessing to all mankind. The God-given marks are very many, and while the following list is not exhaustive, they constitute a chain of evidence utterly impossible to ignore.

One race, and one race alone, has all these marks. Nations within this race may have only a portion of them, but the race as a whole has them all. With a few exceptions, Joseph (the birthright nation) was the recipient of them all. By inheritance, his two sons, Ephraim (Great Britain) and Manasseh (U.S.A.) will be found possessing them all.

While Israelites remain in other countries, America is the home of millions of all the thirteen tribes (one out of many) and thus is representative of the whole House of Jacob. We are bound by Israel’s responsibilities; fulfilling Israel’s destiny. The MARKS are on us everywhere; in our NAME; in our SABBATH; in our INSTITUTIONS; in our PHILANTHROPY; in our COMMERCE; in our WEALTH; in our MINES; in our AGRICULTURE; in our CHURCHES; in our MISSIONARY ENTERPRISES; in our ARMED FORCES; in our POSSESSION OF THE BIBLE: – all BIRTHMARKS, which neither time, nor the ages, nor even our sin can wipe out.

1. Israel to be great and mighty nation. Gen. 12:2; 18:18; Deut. 4:7,8.

2. Israel to have multitudinous seed. Gen. 13:16; 15:5; 22:17; 24:60; 26:4, 24; 28:3, 14; 32:12; 49:22; Isa. 10:22; Hos. 1:10; Zech. 10:7,8.

3. Israel to spread abroad to the West, East, North and South. Gen. 28:14; Isa. 42:5, 6.

4. Israel to have a new home. 2nd Sam. 7:10; 1st Chron. 17:9.

5. Israel’s home to be north-west of Palestine. Isa. 49:12; Jer. 3:18.

6. Israel to live in islands and coasts of the earth. Isa. 41:1; 49:1-3; 51:5; Jer. 31:7-10.

7. Israel to become a company of nations. Gen. 17:4-6, 15,16; 35:11; 48:19; Eph. 2:12.

8. Israel to have a Davidic King (a perpetual monarchy within Israel). 2nd Sam. 7:13,19; 1st Chron. 22:10; 2nd Chron. 13:5; Psa. 89:20, 37; Eze. 37:24; Jer. 33:17, 21, 26.

9. Israel to colonize and spread abroad. Gen. 28:14; 49:22; Deut. 32:8; 33:17; Psa. 2:8; Isa. 26:15; 27:6; 54:2; Zech. 10:8,9.

10. Israel to colonize the desolate place of the earth. Isa. 35:1; 43:19, 20; 49:8; 54:3; 58:11, 12.

11. Israel to lose a colony, then expand, demanding more room. Isa. 49:19, 20.

12. Israel to have all the land needed. Deut. 32:8.

13. Israel to be the first among the nations. Gen. 27:29; 28:13; Jer. 31:7.

14. Israel to continue as a nation forever. 2nd Sam. 7:16, 24, 29; 1st Chron. 17:22-27; Jer. 31:35-37.

15. Israel’s home to be invincible to outside forces. 2nd Sam. 7:10; Isa. 41:11-14.

16. Israel to be undefeatable – defended by God. Num. 24:8, 9; Isa. 15-17; Micah 5:8, 9.

17. Israel to be God’s instrument in destroying evil. Jer. 51:20; 51:19-24; Dan. 2:34, 35.

18. Israel to have a land of great mineral wealth. Gen. 49:25, 26; Deut. 8:9; 33:15-19.

19. Israel to have a land of great agricultural wealth. Gen. 27:28; Deut. 8:7, 9; 28:11; 33:13, 14, 28.

20. Israel to be rich by trading. Isa. 60:5-11; 61:6.

21. Israel to be envied and feared by all nations. Deut. 2:25; 4:8; 28:10; Isa. 43:4; 60:10, 12; Micah 7:16, 17; Jer. 33:9.

22. Israel to lend to other nations, borrowing of none. Deut. 15:6; 28.12.

23. Israel to have a new name. Isa. 62:2; 65:15; Hos. 2:17.

24. Israel to have a new language. Isa. 28:11 (The Bible, by means of which God speaks now to Israel, is English not Hebrew).

25. Israel to possess the gates of his enemies. Gen. 22:17.

26. Israel to find the aborigines diminishing before them. Deut. 33:17; Isa. 60:12.

27. Israel to have control of the seas. Deut. 33:19; Num. 24:7; Psa. 89:25; Isa. 60:5 (F. Fenton translates this last, “when rolls up to you all the wealth of the sea”. That could not be unless Israel controlled it).

28. Israel to have a new religion (New Covenant.) Heb. 8:10-13; 9:17; Matt. 10:5-7; Luke 1:77; 2:32; 22:20; John 11:49-52; Gal. 3:13.

29. Israel to lose all trace of her lineage. Isa. 42:16-19; Hos. 1:9, 10; 2:6; Rom. 11:25.

30. Israel to keep Sabbath forever (one day in seven set aside). Ex. 31:13, 16, 17; Isa. 58:13, 14.

31. Israel to be called the sons of God (i.e., accept Christianity). Hos. 1:10-11.

32. Israel to be a people saved by the Lord. Deut. 33:27-29; Isa. 41:8-14; 43:1-8;44:1-3;49:25, 26; 52:1-12; 55:3-10, 13; Jer. 46:27, 28; Eze. 34:10-16; Hos. 2:23; 13:9-14; 14:4, 6.

33. Israel to be the custodians of the Oracles (Scriptures) of God. Psa. 147:19, 21; Isa. 59-21.

34. Israel to carry the Gospel to all the world. Gen. 28:14; Isa. 43:10-12 (witnesses), 21; Micah 5:7.

35. Israel to be kind to the poor and set slaves free. Deut. 15:7, 11; Psa. 72:4; Isa. 42:7; 49:9; 58:6.

36. Israel to be the heir of the world. Rom. 4:13.

37. Israel to be God’s Glory. Isa. 46:13; 49:3; 60:1, 2.

38. Israel to possess God’s Holy Spirit as well as His Word. Isa. 44:3; 59:21; Hagg. 2:5.

39. Israel to be God’s Heritage, formed by God, forever. Deut. 4:20; 7:6; 14:2; 2nd Sam. 7:23; 1st Kings 8:51, 53; Isa. 43:21; 54:5-10; Hos. 2:19, 23; Joel 2:27; Micah 7:14 -18.

40. Israel is the nation appointed to bring glory to God. Isa. 41:8-16; 43:10, 21; 44:23; 49:3.

^^^ FROM http://www.israelect.com/reference/JackMohr/jm050.htm ^^^

The word “ISRAEL” occurs 2568 times in 2294 verses in the KJV, and not one time is ISRAEL called “JEW” The Book of Romans was about Gods love for “ISRAEL” for the most part, and the word “JEW” is used 10 time there and NOT once for ISRAEL!

From CHRISTIAN Hymn written in 1779, Titled
All Hail The Power of Jesus Name.

>>> JEWS™ could not sing that song!

>>> THIS TRUTH is VERY IMPORTANT if you want to understand what is happening to the CHRISTIAN NATIONS!

READ the Book of OBADIAH and see who are a small and HATED people. (JEW),  Ezekiel. Chapters 35 and 36 speak about the bloody characteristics of the Edomites (35:5, 6), their envy and hatred of Jacob for being chosen of God (35:5,11) and their burning desire to possess Palestine.

True Torah Jews™ Against Z I O N I S M say that what we see in the Middle East concerning the State of Israel is in direct disobedience to GOD!

“Replacement Theology” was the IDEA that the Church replaced Israel, and therefore were the soul recipients of the blessings God gave Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. But with a deeper understanding of Gods Plan for those that loved Him, was that Jesus would be the Messiah to ALL of the Faith of Abraham and would therefore become EQUAL partakers of the blessings! Now that still leaves the fact that God also made a Covenant with the Children of Israel and that was a BLOOD Covenant! And God never took that Covenant back because of the unbelief of a FEW JEWS™ that rejected the Mosaic Laws for the Babylonian Talmud!

ISRAEL’S IDENTITY today has nothing to do with “Replacement Theology” but has everything to do with the Covenant made with the Seed of JACOB! Jacob had twelve Sons and only Judah was called JEW™ and so that leaves the Ten Tribes of ISRAEL that are also of the PROMISE! GODS CHOSEN JUST GOT BIGGER by close to ONE BILLION PEOPLE! Not the 14.5 MILLION Jews™ that they want you to believe!
“A thousand million” Gen. 24:60


41 thoughts on “Why don’t these Scriptures fit the so called GODS ‘CHOSEN’?

  1. CN

    On a curious esoteric side-note, NEOM will be geographically situated overlapping the historical region known as Edom. Shabbatai Tzvi, the [Sabbatean] Satanic messiah of 1666 called his religion ‘The holy religion of  Edom.’

    ‘The Canaanite political parties were the Pharisees, Sadducees, Zealots, Essains, Assissins,
    Herodians, and Scribes. A later group, the Edomites, descended from Esau and later intermarried with the Turks, producing a Turco- Edomite mixture which later became known as the Chazars, the present occupants of Israel, according to the great Jewish scholar, Arthur Koestler.
    – Eustace Mullins, Curse of Canaan, page 19

    The Rotschilds are sabbateans and edomittes, impostors who have brainwashed the ‘jews’ and the world…

    1. EDOMS THORN Post author

      Easy to make that statement ,but you have not shown ONE error in my research. You appear to call the God of Abraham a weak gOD and unable to do all HE said concerning Jacob/ISRAEL! You also show that you are a Bible illiterate, and you think only with your heart. Dis-agreeing without providing FACTS is called “WHINING”…

      NOTE to all>>> I have been very ill and not working at the things that I need to. I may be getting the medical treatment I have been needing finally. Please pray for me and mine.
      Thank you.

    1. EDOMS THORN Post author

      The word of God is not hard to understand! All we have to do is READ it, believe it and trust that HE is able to do ALL he said in HIS word!

      Thanks for coming by.

  2. Still Learning

    Question or questions: Ashkenaz are in the line of Japheth which are Ashkenazi Jews. Which called themselves the Chosen People. Which I do not believe for the scriptures called them Gentiles. What is the connection with Esau/Edomite if any?

    1. EDOMS THORN Post author

      I am also “Still Learning”. My goal and intent here, is to provide Biblical and Historical FACTS, that will provoke the reader to do further research! The ‘observations and conclusions’ that I have come to are based on over forty-five years of prayer, research and sound observations. I welcome ‘disagreement’ but expect Biblical and Historical facts that prove any errors! But all I ever get is misquoted, out of context ‘arguments’ that ignore the Biblical and Historical facts I have presented.

      The question(s) that you raised, are actually answered in a couple of other articles that I presented here: …”HERE are who MOST JEWS™ really are
      “EDOM: The Story Of Jacob And Esau Is Not Just A Story”
      http://www.edomsthorn.wordpress.com “…

      And …” The SYNAGOGUE Of SATAN: EDOMS Playground
      https://edomsthorn.wordpress.com/2014/01/28/the-synagogue-of-satan-edoms-playground/ >>>JUST scroll down to the section …”Lets Examine The Word JEW”…
      With a bit of research, you will see that the words “JEW” and “GENTILE” do not belong in the Scriptures, and were added for confusion and deception, and those two words have MANY meanings for many “SHEEPLE” (the reader), and they (the Sheeple) are being lead to believe that those words define the people of the world in a way that is contrary to the intent and ‘use’ of GODS word!

      HISTORY and Scripture records that the “Idumeans” (EDOM) were in control of Jerusalem in MESSIAHS day, (and are today). There were no “KHAZAR JEWS” in either the Old or New COVENANT (Testament). There is not even a hint in Scripture or History that implacates the Khazars (JAPETH) as IMPERSONATING ISRAEL or JUDAH! It has ONLY been EDOM! Not until the Christ hating JEW “Koestler’s” (and other “JEWS”) incredible distortion, and Historically and Biblically inaccurate (with so many WILD) claims, ALL based on his mis-use of the word “JEW”! Koestler claims, …Majority of Jews in Middle Ages were Khazars”…. That is STRICTLY a “CALIM”….

      AND for further understanding, we MUST see that the God of Abraham, in MANY verses of Scriptures, pointed out that JACOB/ISRAEL had ONE primary enemy, Esau/EDOM.
      Genesis 25:23 And the Lord said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.

      Deuteronomy 28 is to the Children of ISRAEL! The Lord shall smite thee with madness, and blindness, and astonishment of heart: >43 The stranger that is within thee shall get up above thee very high; and thou shalt come down very low. He shall lend to thee, and thou shalt not lend to him: he shall be the head, and thou shalt be the tail.


      Google “Flavius Josephus on robbers and impostors” Josephus was refering to the “”Idumeans” not KHAZARS…
      Antiquities of the Jews – Book XX >>> CHAPTER 8.
      5. Now as for the affairs of the Jews, they grew worse and worse continually, for the country was again filled with robbers and impostors, who deluded the multitude”…

      They are EDOMITES!!! READ Revelation 3:9 with UNDERSTANDING!!
      Rev. 3:9, “Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee”…
      Whose feet are they? WHO Did God say he loved? Jacob? YES, WE are Jacob/ISRAEL, and in ROMANS 9:13 “As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.” Malachi 1:3 and OBADIAH!!! The world was blessed through Judah, and the house of David. All of the other blessings were for all 12 Tribes of Israel (Jacob) So who are those that have exalted themselves (OBADIAH) and claim to be Jews/ISRAEL?
      Isaiah 60:14 …”The sons also of them that afflicted thee shall come bending unto thee; and all they that despised thee shall bow themselves down at the soles of thy feet”… = THAT IS EDOM at ISRAELS feet!! EDOM is and have been OUR enemy and Gods enemy, and tool that HE has allowed, and used to aide in bringing Satan and his rebellion to an end. One major “BLASPHEMY” is that EDOM claims to be Gods Chosen, and EDOMS behavior in the world has turned MANY away from the God OF ABRAHAM! I would want nothing to do with EDOMS gOD if they were “Gods Chosen”.
      No where in scripture are any one other than EDOM pointed to as those pretending to be Judah/ISRAEL!
      …”The Jews are thus revealed as fraudulent scoundrels, continuing an eons-old tradition of criminal deception and extortion. However one small matter might need clarification. Recent writings have claimed DNA proof that the current occupants of Israel are not genuine Jews, but Ashkenazis from Kazakstan. It should though be noted that in the seventh century AD, a tribe of so-called ‘Jews’ arrived in Kazakstan, having been turfed out of both Persia and Anatolia for the crime of usury, a practice prohibited by Muslim religion. These banished crooks presented themselves to the Kazak king as royalty and inveigled their way onto the throne (King Joseph) of this rough nomadic society, by the ruse of marrying into the Kazak ‘royal’ family. From this new powerbase east of Crimea they hustled their way into Europe and also back to the Levant through the Dardanelles and Turkey. So there may be a smidgeon of Jew in them after all.


      The prophetic effects of ungodly unity–Part 1
      Jones, Stephen E: God’s Kingdom Ministries
      “Hasdai ibn Shaprut, who was foreign minister to Abd-al-Rahman, Sultan of Cordova, in his letter to King Joseph of the Chazars (about 960 AD) … speaks of the tradition according to which the Chazars once dwelt near the Seir Mountains [The ‘Seir Mountains’ are none other than the original land of Esau-Edom – ‘Thus dwelt Esau in mount Seir: Esau is Edom’ (Genesis 36:8). Seir was a mountain range sought of the Dead Sea and was also known as the ‘land of Edom’ (Genesis 36:21). The Seir mountains were the home of the Edomites for nearly a millennium (The Edomites arrived in Edom or Seir at the end of the 14th and beginning of the 13th century B.C. Encyclopedia Judaica, Vol. 6, p. 372) Thus we have it from Jewish sources that the Khazars originally ‘dwell near the Seir Mountains’ so are racially of Edomite stock. But how and when did Edomites get to Khazaria? There is evidence that in the 6th century BC, some of the Edomites fled their homeland of Seir and migrated north, ‘After the fall of Jerusalem, in 586 BC, the Edomites began to press northward (Ezekiel 36:5).”
      (The New Westminster Dictionary of the Bible, ed. by Henry S. Gehman, The Westminster Press, Philadelphia, 1970, p. 418}].” (The Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. IV, (1905), p. 3).

      It is EDOM!!! EDOM can not have their idenity made known, because scriptures points to them, and ONLY them as impersonating JUDAH/ISRAEL…

      Please research those links.

      And these articles I wrote will aide you also…

      When you have put all of this together in these articles, this is the only thing that makes sense.
      “Why don’t these scriptures fit the so called “Gods Chosen”?
      “EDOM: The Story Of Jacob And Esau Is Not Just A Story”

      THANK you for your comment. I hope to hear from you after you have give CAREFUL consideration to what I have presented!

  3. Patrick Gragg

    I am here now and am 100% on the same page as you, way to go, EDOMS THORN*, I have a time with the pre tribbers a lot here in Colorado but even more of a problem with Christians that don’t see the truth in the scriptures and call the abominated U.N. created “Israel”, yes it is the same geographical area of ancient Israel, but God said”I WILL GATHER MY PEOPLE FROM THE FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH, ” HE DID NOT SAY THE SATANIC U,N. WOULD BRING HIS PEOPLE HOME, HE SAID HE WOULD!

    1. EDOMS THORN Post author

      Patrick, It just is not that hard to understand, IF you believe GODS word! Read it and BELIEVE IT! I did that at age 14 in 1970. Awareness dispells ignorance and is the first step towards positive change. Why does EDOM hide that they are EDOM? Why does EDOM DEMONIZE the ISRAEL IDENTITY TRUTH?

      I ‘edited’ my name. I am only EDOMS THORN on the inter net! TO MANY threats and ENEMIES!

      PEACE and Gods SPEED!


  4. thetruthnotdoctrine

    Deleting The Truth does not let you off the hook – The Truth will prevail and your disininformation and now, by your action of deleting my comment, your satanic errors will be exposed. You will not and cannot prosper with this nonsense blog – now repent.

    1. EDOMS THORN Post author

      You need to NAME the …”disinformation”. I need YOU to show how what I have presented is “SATANIC” You need to refute my “ERRORS”.

      You have borne FALSE WITNESS against me and slandered me and my BLOG. Make it right!

      I have a reply to your last comment that I have waiting in “moderation”.

      1. Anonymous

        It’s always the same script with these people. Never addressing any points in regards to what their claims may be. It’s the World or the Word, i’ll go with the Word.
        Good job EdomsThorn, another spineless coward pulling his foreskin around himself and hiding like the peon he is.

      2. EDOMS THORN Post author

        I am so glad that someone could see this for what it is! I post comments at many sites and am met with these same kinds of tactics. These truth are hated and MUST be distracted from or distorted. Many times what I say is miss represented and claims of racist or anti-Semite are made in another attempt to demonize me and the truth.

        This particular FOOL was fishing for me to go and comment at his site for some reason. I have about eight comment here that I would not post because he would not answer my questions nor has he read my articles. These kind of people are seemingly ADL/SPLC operatives or some such. The way they avoid the questions and will not speak to my points is very telling. In their case it is not pride, or willing ignorance, it is an agenda driven attack on me and my message! They are subversives, and he is the first TROLL that has ever commented here. They stay away from here because there would be a record of there insanity and cowardly subversion!

        I also have noticed at ALL of the so called “Patriot Sites” that many trolls like he have established themselves by making great comments and presenting good information, and they have gained the trust of the ‘readers’, and when I post a comment, I am attacked in the same way as this one, and even worse, but they will not answer any questions and miss represent what I say and IGNORE what I say, and use that to attack me.

        Gods blessings to you and yours.


    2. EDOMS THORN Post author

      I told you the rules we WILL play by here. You posted another comment and ignored my rules. You just said, ..”I have not borne false witness”… REALLY? You LIED when you claimed I “Deleted” your comment. You operate a WordPress blog and you KNOW I had not deleted you! I think you were being treacherous! Attempting to make me look like I was running from you NONSENSE! That was baring FALSE WITNESS! PERIOD! YOU also called what I have presented “SATANIC”. You have not refuted ONE FACT that I have presented with anything but your childish CLAIM that I am in error! You just sent this, …”If you’re saying Edomites are Jews then you are in error – period.”… WHERE are your “FACTS”? That is just a LOAD of diarrhea! A CLAIM! With nothing to refute one FACT in my articles!

      “NOW” you repent!

    3. EDOMS THORN Post author

      You have not provided chapter and verse that even HINTS at your CLAIM! You have not addressed one point in my articles and refuted ONE thing! And because you come to my blog, and will not address ONE POINT, you are not going to be allowed to have your comments to be posted! I do have them in “moderation” for further proof of your treachery! You are a slanderer and a LIAR!

      I on the other hand have provided PROOF of the truth, and you CAN NOT refute anything. YOUR claim is a LIE! You have posted four times, and not ONE time have you presented anything to substantiate your stupidity!

      1. thetruthnotdoctrine

        Now you’re lying because I sent links to my articles with chapter and verse. I have exposed you for a false messenger and you’re ego is hurting – repent and get over it.

        Back to the drawing board for you sunshine.

      2. EDOMS THORN Post author

        Your links and the information in them has nothing to do with your comments HERE. “WE” are having a supposed conversation at edomsthorn.wordpress.com and you have NOT provided anything more than slander and false accusations! You will not speak to one point in my article HERE that you called “SATANIC ERRORS” wasn’t it. You did not name one error, you just claim there are ERRORS! I told you to go “line by line” and point out my “errors” but you can NOT! I asked you to provide a verse from Genesis 38 that even HINTS at your claim that the Canaanites are impersonating Jacob/JUDAH/Israel. I provided many BIBLICAL and Historical facts that PROVE EDOM is and are those that MESSIAH was talking about in scriptures.

        I do not even want my readers to see anything from you except what I have told you to do.

        Until you MAN-UP and deal with your mess HERE, I have no interest in anything further from you.
        Are you unable to admit your ERRORS? Or did you in fact willingly lie when you said I deleted your comments? I know you were aware that I did not. I think you are a treacherous TROLL with out the intellectual courage to have a debate on any of the facts I have presented HERE at edomsthorn.wordpress.com

    4. EDOMS THORN Post author

      You are extremely MORONIC and incoherent! You continue with your nonsense as if you are on a mission to show us just how moronic you are!
      I suggest you seek professional help beginning with a Proctologist, because it is clear your rear-end has taken control over your intellect!
      I also suggest you talk to your psychiatrist and get him/her to monitor your your medication better. Taking to much is worse than not taking it at all.
      Finally, you should do some REAL research into the Biblical and Historical facts that I have presented. I have provided many LINKS that are sure to
      aide you, IF you have an interest in the FACTS!

      You are not the first person that has let me down. I was hopeful to see that you were a truth seeker, but you are nothing more than a self-impressed
      Proverbs 18:2 “FOOL” “Know a little” that is incapable of having an adult conversation.

      Thanks for nothing!
      Good day and good riddance!

      1. EDOMS THORN Post author

        I have asked you about FOUR times to show me in Genesis 38 “A” verse, ANY verse that hints at your claim and you will not. WHY? You have not pointed to one ERROR in my articles. WHY?

  5. Christopher

    Hard to debate with people when they have no truth in them, i admire your works, and as evident by them, theres a bigger force at work as i believe God is waking His Children from their Stupor, good luck in your endeavors and i’ll be following 🙂

    1. EDOMS THORN Post author

      Christopher thank you, some are waking up, but ALL will be amazed in the end to find that God does indeed keep His Word. So many tears will be shed because of willing ignorance.

      Spread the word…

  6. stan gore

    In the book of Revelation the 2 churches that Christ found favor with are teaching who the kenites are. In Britain you’ll also find Judah. Princess Dinah is a direct descendant of King James.

    1. EDOMS THORN Post author

      WE have been over this BLUESKY. The Bible says that those that are impersonating JACOB/ISRAEL/JUDAH is EDOM! AS I told you so many times and you do not seem to care, EDOM married into the SEED Of CAIN! Calling the impostors “KENITES” is a distraction from the TRUTH! Kenites are mentioned SIX times in Scripture and never HINTS at them impersonating anyone!

      And the Royal Family are GERMAN and therefore IMO of JUDAH.

  7. Anthony Clifton

    how can there be so-called “Jews” in the Bible when there is no word “Jew” until the 1700’s…
    YES YES …EDOM…[The Children of Israel never having been “Jews”]

    but 90% of so-called “Jews” are not Edomites !!!
    further as you know…100% of people who believe lies are STOOOOOPID !!!

    …you may assume that I deliberately avoid looking at something that escaped my gaze when I wasn’t even looking at it in the first place…
    when I go online I don’t always go back to the last place I was and do the bread crumb trail thingy…Ya Know..I do an info sweep [Global] and then sometimes if I have time make a few comments…but let me share with you the FACT that there are literally hundreds of thousands of websites…believe it or not ….so sometimes it is not a matter of deliberate avoidance …
    it’s just kinda that is the way it happened…


    FURTHERMORE…the truth is rather self evident and not only doesn’t really depend on ME,
    it’s still going to be there no matter how many “Jew” worshippers don’t want to take a look

    so don’t take it personal if I don’t get back to a question I didn’t see right away…

    it helps a whole lot in life to limit assumptions..Al addressed one self inflated ego commentor in a short missive lately on that particular issue…some people are very “Jewish”-like being in the middle of their own little “g” god universe…where everything is subject to how they “feel” about something…and whoever doesn’t agree is WRONG…I’ve known way too many “Baptist” preachers who would literally want to fight to the death believing the “Jews” are God’s Chosen People…know what I mean, Verne ?

    20 Years ago I investigated a Mass Murder Case…which changed the whole “This is your life” scenario….being a Targeted Individual is not that much fun…if you like Normal.


    everyday is different….if you catch my drift.

    1. EDOMS THORN Post author

      YOU SAID;
      …you may assume that I deliberately avoid looking at something that escaped my gaze when I wasn’t even looking at it in the first place… and then said. ….so sometimes it is not a matter of deliberate avoidance …

      Deliberate or not, your statement is not made a fact just on its own. And you still have not answered what you mean by I will try again! With no riddles or otherwise none answers, …”beings this is the laugh track purim special on parade”… Found at: https://edomsthorn.wordpress.com/2013/02/22/blatant-anti-semite-jesus-christ/#comments

      NOR have you replied to my response to the following one sided conversation!!!
      …”THE Judaism portal is the TALMUD….The Khazars are the “PROSELYTES” to the TALMUD in 740AD that is the LINK TO FACTS ARE FACTS….Ben Freedman”…

      EDOMS THORN says you or Freedman are relying on just one point, of which as I see it, is nothing more than one more of EDOMS FABLES! My Research and OBSERVATIONS lead to that being just another of EDOMS FABLES!

      Going back in part, to OUR alleged “conversation” at;

      https://edomsthorn.wordpress.com/god-guns-and-patriots/ of which I deserve to have your response to my points

      I did address your post and made some points that I feel should have been addressed by you. I did establish what I perceive as a pattern of Edom claiming to be something they are not, and I used the Book of Esther to further my case! DID I get ESTHER wrong?

      The Ashkenaz, son of Gomer, son of Japheth, have no Genetic link to Ham. EDOM married into the HAMITIC seed-line as I have pointed out in the above mentioned article on JAcob/Esau Gen. 26:34-35 That FABLE that the JEWS claim to be Ashkenazi is necessary, in order to hide their true IDENTITY. They could not admit that they are of EDOM, because that would show that what Obadiah, Malachi 1:1-4 and EZK. Ch. 35 and 36 is true! That they are in fact, …”the people against whom the Lord hath indignation forever”… The ASHKENAZI do not posses that “GENETIC CODE” and it should be evident that the JEWS are not of JAPHETH.

      Malachi chapter 1:1-4 “ZIONISM PROPHSIED”, Obadiah The Book of OBADIAH foretells of Edoms impersonation and utter destruction, and Another Old Testament prophet who speaks of Edom in the latter days is Ezekiel. Chapters 35 and 36 speak about the bloody characteristics of the Edomites, their envy and hatred of Jacob for being chosen of God (35:5-15) and their burning desire to possess Palestine, and their END! AND Revelation 3:9

      WHERE are ISRAEL? NOT JEWS, but ISRAEL? WHERE is EDOM? Just as Israel are here on this earth so is EDOM! After Rome had had enough of those Filthy Edomites in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. WHERE did they GO??

      CAN you produce ONE Biblical proof that the the sons of Japath are pretending to be JEWS??

      Thanks Anthony for your attention.


    1. EDOMS THORN Post author


      Whats the problem? You wont respond to me. And so you link to another article dealing with the Book of Esther? I do want to post and respond what you still have ‘awaiting moderation’ they are still in the archive under ‘still relevant!

      Rev. 3:9, “Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee”… Whose feet are they? WHO Did God say he loved? Abraham? yes. Isaac? Yes. Jacob? YES, and in ROMANS 9:13 “As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.” Malachi 1:3 and OBADIAH!!! The world was blessed through Judah, and the house of David. All of the other blessings were for all 12 Tribes of Israel (Jacob) So who are those that have exalted themselves (OBADIAH) and claim to be Jews. Whose feet are they?? Keeping in mind that if “those days had not been shortened” They would have killed all of the Children of Israel. Give it some thought.

      The impostors in Rev. 3:9 can ONLY be EDOM!
      There is nothing in the Bible or History to back up your claim about Gog- Magog Askenazi.

      1. g888

        Do you think these edomites infiltrated the Egyptian government back during the times the Israelites were captives there? Could this be the same bloodline ruling all secret societies to this day from behind the scenes? If so then we are talking about the same bloodline, Satan’s seed, which must be the real 13 Zoroastrian Bloodlines hiding behind their visible servants.

        I think this is the bloodline here; they all have magnificent castles with their own Obelisks bearing their family names;

        Matteiano, Flaminio, Vaticano, Dogali, Solare, Lateranense, Minerveo, Macuteo, Sallustiano, Quirinale, Agonallis, Pinciano, Esquiline, Ancient bloodlines of Saturnia. The Saturnalian Brotherhood. House of Borja, House of Breakspeare, House of Somaglia, House of Orsini, House of Conti, House of Chigi, House of Colonna, House of Farnese, House of Medici, House of Gaetani, House of Pamphili, House of Este, House of Aldobrandini {Satan}, House of Pallavincini. These are the Egyptian Ptolemaic Dynasty Rulers.

        They rule these families;

        The Astor Bloodline
        The Bundy Bloodline
        The Collins Bloodline
        The DuPont Bloodline
        The Freeman Bloodline
        The Kennedy Bloodline
        The Li Bloodline
        The Onassis Bloodline
        The Reynolds Bloodline
        The Rockefeller Bloodline
        The Rothschild Bloodline
        The Russell Bloodline
        The Van Duyn Bloodline

        What do you think?

      2. EDOMS THORN Post author

        I think you a spot on. It is the “SERPENT SEEDLINE” and their minions. I am certain that some of them are of the Hybrid Nepelim. It does sound strange to most, but these are DEMONIC BEINGS! They are real. THEY LIVE!

        Thanks for coming by, I am in the middle of a article for another blogger concerning the FRACKING issue. Research it and you will see that is is ONLY for existing OIL WELLS. But they are doing it everywhere. I don’t do “News” articles here but I will post that here also. White Wraith asked me to work this up. You can find her a Pragmatic Witness,wordpress.com

        Thanks again…


      3. g888

        This was sarcasm = “In the meantime that Bible fairy tale leads us to comprehend that someone wants every last “jew” on this planet dead” Because most people believe the Bible is a fairy tale. Its not. And all of this anti jew anti Israel hatred, THE WORLD AGAINST ISRAEL is Biblical and you know it. You’re taking it wrong. WW is against speaking of Biblical relevance concerning past and present prophetic events. I leave this here to end the discussion because two Christian Bible believing brothers arguing with one another in front of people that don’t understand Scripture is not helping them in the least little bit. You’re over aggressive and far to ready to punish and vilify your own brothers in Christ over either a error in translations or a moment of stupid sarcasm. Now leave this in moderation or just delete it.

      4. EDOMS THORN Post author

        Why would I want to “delete” your comments? You should be willing to stand by your statements, and be WILLING to have an adult conversation. But thus far you do not seem to want to! To have an “argument” requires us to ask and answer questions and speak to each others points, but you will not do that! I am so sick of these kinds of so called “conversations”.
        I am constantly providing Biblical and Historical FACTS and then those facts are ignored and then people will continue with their NON-Sense as if those facts did not exist. They refute nothing or offer anything that shows that those facts are in error.
        Do you know what a “Charlatan” is? You make claims that you understand what the word “JEW” means, yet you obviously haven’t a clue what you are talking about. You posted here at this article that CLEARLY proves that the Western Nations and people are True Israel and then repeat the “BLASPHEMY” that Jesus Christ was talking about in Revelation 2:9 IF you spent just a little time reading what I have presented, you would know that Messiah was saying that it is EDOM that are claiming to be ISRAEL (JEWS). It is because of your willing IGNORance that you do not see that EDOM has gained control of our domestic and foreign policies and has turned the world against TRUE ISRAEL. You PARROT the lies you were told just like a good halter led SHEEPLE! You call it “Jew Hatred” LOL I wanted you to show me chapter and verse for …”leads us to comprehend that someone wants every last “jew” on this planet dead” “… NOT your “fairy tale comment. It seems you attributed that to being in scripture. WELL? To many people post things and claim it to be in the Bible. This is a big problem for those that may want the truth and then someone does that it hurts OUR cause! Many judge what they hear and take scripture out off context, with ZERO understanding.

        You said, …”. You’re over aggressive and far to ready to punish and vilify your own brothers in Christ “…
        AGGRESSIVE? I call it BOLD! I call it “STANDING IN THE TRUTH”. I am proclaiming the word of God. As my brother, and a Christian, you should “Prove all things” as the Scriptures tell us!
        Ephesians 6:13-14 “Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. STAND therefore, having your loins girt about with TRUTH”… emphasis added. AS you can SEE, the first article in OUR armor is T R U T H
        NOW lets see if we can have an adult conversation!

        I showed you these FACTS and you did not even bother to speak to them. HERE they are again:
        The word “ISRAEL” occurs 2568 times in 2294 verses in the KJV, and not one time is ISRAEL called “JEW” The Book of Romans is largely about Gods love for ISRAEL/Jacob and the word “JEW” is used there ten times and not one time is it used for ISRAEL. WHY NOT?
        NEVER in the entire Bible are the so called JEWS called “Gods Chosen”
        The word “JEW” in scripture, NO WHERE denote “FAITH or Religion.
        “JEW” means Judean and is used for one son of Jacob/ISRAEL JUDAH.


      5. g888


        THE UNITED STATES IS STILL A BRITISH COLONY AMERICAN LAND OWNERSHIP, A TRUE OXYMORON, I call it the Babylonian governmental pecking order structure in a nut shell. Last Chapter INTRODUCTION by the Informer; What Mr. Montgomery is trying to convey in this, his final writing on this subject, is the laying of the foundation for how this country operates today. Not that you can go into a court and present these arguments today, you can’t.. If you don’t know the power structures beginnings then you are doomed forever to repeat the same mistakes as those that preceded you in their quest to seek justice.
        To truly win in this situation there must be a concerted effort of at least 70 percent of the people to overturn the present state of affairs. That will not happen because of the ignorance of the masses that are so easily led by those in power. The people have truly forsaken the true Sovereign, namely the Lord Almighty. Without going into the so-called “religion” aspect, let me just pose some questions. Did not the Lord Almighty create the land? Yes. Did the Pope create the land? No! Did the King or President create the land? No! Did any other man create the land? No! Did any group of men called State create the land? No! Now that I have answered the questions for you then here are some that you are to answer.
        Who is the real owner of the land? Did not the creator of the land bestow it upon all men and their heirs to be stewards of the land, granting to no one man or group of men, absolute dominion over any land? When man dies who does the land escheat to? For those not familiar with that term escheat, it means who does the land go back to when all men die? Your answers can only show that no Pope, King, Man himself, or group of men called State can ever claim they own the land and charge another man a fee to live on that land. Mr. Montgomery in his book THE UNITED STATES IS STILL A BRITISH COLONY is showing you the progression from a certain period of time that certain mere mortal men have decided that they were granted certain rights above all other men in claiming dominion over all land. The pecking Order starting from the top in controlling land are;
        1. The Pope
        2. The Kings of all lands, but we are talking specifically England here.
        3. Knights
        4. Lord Proprietors of the King, in America
        5. Royal Governors of the King, in America
        6. Administrative officers of the corporate colonies of America
        7. Freeholders/Freemen of granted property in America.
        8. The officers of the newly constituted States of America which, gave way to the;
        9. Officers of the United States which now reverses 8 and 9 due to the States joining Union.
        10. The County officers which are the corporate instrumentalities of the State.
        11. Simple man, meaning you, reading this. You, number 11, are so far removed from the land that the Lord Almighty gave to all men, that essentially you have no claim but as a squatter on someone else’s land and have no control whatsoever in saying you have the right to not pay taxes for the use of the Pope’s land.
        But the Pope is the figure head of a corporation called the Vatican consisting of men forming a “WHICH THE LORD ALMIGHTY NEVER CREATED A RELIGION”, claiming complete dominion over all land in the world. When the Pope dies another of these men are chosen as the new Pope. There is one little quirk that needs to be mentioned. That is, a group of men exist that has control of even the Vatican, therefore every chain holder on down to number 11 on the list is controlled. That group of men are called Bankers. The Pope and the King, in 1213, on to a period just past 1218, lost a lot of money fighting each other and drew on a group of men, one in particular, that loaned to each side money.
        When neither could pay the loans back and defaulted, the money lender foreclosed. He foreclosed in agreement by not taking all the property, except for England, as is done today on foreclosures, but an arrangement was made that satisfied the so called “holy trinity” that is espoused by Mr. Montgomery below. That “Holy Trinity” is mentioned in the Treaty of 1783. Who do you think the Holy Trinity consists? So the list above from 1 to 11 needs another entity. I did not put him in so I could make it clear who is in order of claim to the land you live on as a tenant. Now number one has been replaced by “The Banker” and everyone has shifted down a notch. Hello number twelve! How do you like your position on the list? No number twelves hold Allodial Title to anything!! See Number one.
        Now number twelve, listen up, it does not matter what you personally believe concerning God, Evolution, any man made religious doctrine, science, what have you. The above pecking order cannot be refuted, you number twelves can say it’s not true all day long, you’ll never ever prove it wrong, and if you research it you’ll find out you’re just number twelves, citizen serfs under eleven, the number of judgement.—The Informer- I know this guy, he is a retired fortune 500 lawyer. I trade with him.
        My conclusions;
        Wherever possible “from the horse’s mouth” evidence, from mainstream and official sources around the globe, are used for maximum credibility and verifiable authenticity. Such examples are not usually given the front-page headline prominence they deserve, but nonetheless much evidence of the links that facilitate the covert global power structure’s manipulation, direction and control is essentially “hidden in plain sight”.
        It is the assessment of the men and women who have researched the evidence of the many available resources, in plain sight, that the spiritual controllers behind the dark forces of the Illuminati are Luciferian and Satanic elements within the so-called Society of Jesus a.k.a. the Jesuits and the so-called Holy See of the Roman Catholic Church, oftentimes referred to as the Vatican. The current and 30th Jesuit Superior General is Adolfo Nicolás, who was elected on January 19, 2008. The Jesuit Superior General is traditionally nicknamed the Black Pope.
        After much consideration of the evidence, it is the firm conviction of the many researchers involved in seeking data for the exposure of the globalists, that this Rome-based nexus acts via major players and place-people within Papal and Royal knighthood orders, hierarchic Satanic orders and high-level Masonic rites, orders, obediences, the Frankist Sabbataian Papal-loyal Masonic Labor Zionists, and then through the elite policy management groups and intelligence, financial, military and political place-people to create what is referred to as the New World Order.
        The mystical-religious impulse behind this Jesuit/Vatican-planned New World Order – contrary to the in-house rhetoric of the Papacy and their false opposition of the occult secret societies – is not that of Christ, but the spirit of Antichrist.
        God (Father, Son, Holy Spirit)
        Humanity has turned their back upon this for the below power structure. Which by the way asks permission of the above before advancing their corporate model. That’s why the baby steps of this corporation slowly leading humanity to its end goal. Their total annihilation.
        Fallen Angels/Demons
        Gray Pope
        Papal Nobility/Gray Jesuits
        Black Pope
        Black Jesuits
        White Pope
        (Un)Holy See
        (Un)Holy Roman Emperor King Juan Carlos
        Equestrian Order of the Holy Sepulchre of Jerusalem
        Sacred Military Constantinian Order of St George
        Sovereign Military Order of Malta
        The Alliance of the Orders of St John of Jerusalem
        The Crown
        The Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharmaceutical-Educational complex aka Worshipful Company of Fuellers-Mercers-International Bankers-Apothecaries-Haberdashers
        Multi-national Corporations
        Rich people
        Middle Class
        Poor and Welfare.
        We continue here with the list of operatives in control of Satan’s Kingdom.
        – The Order of the Holy Sepulchre:
        Grand Master: John Patrick Cardinal Foley.
        Grand Master Emeritus: Carlo Cardinal Furno.
        Grand Prior: Fouad Twal (Latin Patriarch, Archbishop of Jerusalem).
        – The Sacred Military Constantinian Order of Saint George (Franco-Neapolitan branch):
        Grand Master of the Franco-Neapolitan branch: Prince Carlo, Duke of Castro.
        Grand Prior of the Franco-Neapolitan branch: Albert Cardinal Vanhoye, S.J. – a French Jesuit.
        Prior of the Franco-Neapolitan branch’s British, Irish Delegation: Cormac Cardinal Murphy-O’Connor, Archbishop Emeritus of Westminster.
        – The Sacred Military Constantinian Order of Saint George (Hispano-Neapolitan branch):
        Grand Master of the Hispano-Neapolitan branch: Infante Carlos, Duke of Calabria;
        Grand Prior of the Hispano-Neapolitan branch: Darío Cardinal Castrillón Hoyos from Colombia.
        Vice President of the Deputation and President of the British Association of the Hispano-Neapolitan branch: Prince Rupert zu Loewenstein (also SMOM Bailiff Grand Cross of Honour and Devotion, former President of the British Association of the SMOM, Knight Commander with Star of the Papal Order of St Gregory, Knight of St John, Knight of St Januarius, Knight of St Stephen and the money-man to the Rolling Stones and Mick Jagger since 1971 – nicknamed “Rupie the Groupie”).
        -The Sovereign Military Order of Malta:
        SMOM Prince and Grand Master: Matthew Festing (also a Knight Grand Cross of Justice of the Franco-Neapolitan branch of the Constantinian Order).
        SMOM Grand Prior of England: Fredrik Crichton-Stuart (also a Knight Commander of Justice of the Franco-Neapolitan branch of the Constantinian Order).
        – Opus Dei:
        Prelate: Javier Echevarría Rodríguez.
        – The Order of the Garter: The Sovereign of the Garter is Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom.
        – The Most Venerable Order of St John: The OSJ’s Grand Prior is the Queen’s cousin, Prince Richard, Duke of Gloucester.
        – The Royal Order of Scotland: The Governor is Sir Archibald Donald Orr-Ewing, 6th Baronet.
        – Skull & Bones,
        – The various orders of the Ordo Templi Orientis, the Gnostic Catholic Church,
        – the Martinists, Societas Rosicruciana, AMORC,
        – The Temple of Set, the Theosophical Society,
        – Universal Unity.
        – the Rite of Memphis-Misraim: overtly a 99° system, but covertly going up to the rare 100° – the highest of the Masonic system – given out in Palermo, Sicily headquarters.
        – Turkish Ottoman Freemasonry: a 7° system with two branches controlled by Fethullah Gülen & false anti-Mason Adnan Oktar a.k.a. Harun Yahya.
        – 32° & 33° Scottish Rite Freemasonry: key Sovereign Grand Commanders include Ronald A. Seale, US Southern Jurisdiction Supreme Council 33° – Mother of the World – in Washington, DC; John William McNaughton (also a York Rite Mason & Shriner) US Northern Jurisdiction Supreme Council 33°; Rev. Canon Richard Tydeman, Supreme Council 33° for England & Wales; Corrado Ballaco Gabrieli, Italian Supreme Council 33°. There are Supreme Councils all throughout the world, among them are Italy, France, Spain, Ireland, Scotland, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Russia, Israel, Brazil, the Netherlands, Finland, Denmark, Sweden, Luxembourg, Romania & over 40 others.
        – 11° York Rite Freemasonry: comes under the United Grand Lodge of England, overseen by the Duke of Kent & the Marquess of Northampton, respectively Grand Master & Pro-Grand Master of the UGLE.
        – The Shriners: all Shriners until recently had to be of the Scottish Rite 33°, this is a Masonic-created & controlled body, all members must be “regular” Master Masons; Imperial Potentate of the Shriners of North America & highest-ranking Shriner in the world: Douglas E. Maxwell.
        – Prince Edward, Duke of Kent: Cousin to both Queen Elizabeth II & the Duke of Gloucester, the Duke of Kent is the “Most Worshipful” Grand Master of the United Grand Lodge of England (UGLE) & is also First Grand Principal of the Supreme Grand Chapter of Royal Arch Masons of England & Grand Master of the Order of St Michael & St George. Note that his wife Katharine, Duchess of Kent converted to Roman Catholicism in 1994, as did their son Lord Nicholas Windsor in 2001, who then went on to get married in the Vatican in 2006.
        – Spencer Compton, 7th Marquess of Northampton: The UGLE Pro [Deputy] Grand Master & is also the Pro [Deputy] First Grand Principal of the Supreme Grand Chapter of Royal Arch Masons of England.
        – Prince Michael of Kent: The Duke of Kent’s brother, Prince Michael is the Grand Master of the Grand Lodge of Mark Master Masons. His wife, Princess Michael of Kent, has always been a Roman Catholic & is a Dame Grand Cross of Honour and Devotion of the (Papal-loyal) SMOM, within the Order’s British Association. Princess Michael is also the senior Dame (Dame Grand Cross of Justice) of the British and Irish Delegation of the Franco-Neapolitan branch of the (Papal-loyal) Constantinian Order.
        – The Pilgrims Society (Patron: Queen Elizabeth II; President: Lord Inge),
        – The Bilderberg Group (Chairman: Étienne [Viscount] Davignon),
        – Chatham House/the Royal Institute of International Affairs (Chairman: DeAnne Julius),
        – The Council on Foreign Relations (The CFR; based in New York City; President: Richard N. Haass),
        – The Trilateral Commission (The TC’s three current chairmen: Joseph Nye [also an active Bilderberger], Jesuit-educated Peter Sutherland & Yotaro Kobayashi),
        – The RAND Corporation (President & CEO: James Thompson [CFR member]),
        – The Group of Thirty (G30; Chairman of the Board of Trustees: Paul Volcker, Trilateral Commission founder & member),
        – The Peterson Institute for International Economics (Chairman: Peter G. Peterson; also chairman of the CFR),
        – JPMorgan Chase‘s International Council (Chairman: George P. Schultz),
        – The European Round Table of Industrialists (Chairman: Jorma Ollila, Commander of the Order of Orange-Nassau),
        – The Bohemian Club (Bohemian Grove, California).
        – The United Nations (The UN; trojan-horse Rome-created & controlled One World Government based in New York City) & associated non-governmental organisations (the Paris-based UNESCO, the Geneva, Switzerland-based WHO, et al),
        – The European Union (The EU; mostly based in Brussels, Belgium & Strasbourg, Alsace, France;
        – The European Council (The EU’s highest political body. Presidency of the Council of the European Union rotates every six months among member states’ national governments with a nominated national minister),
        – The European Parliament (The EU’s only directly elected parliamentary institution. President of the European Parliament: Hans-Gert Pöttering),
        – The European Commission (The EU’s executive branch; the President of the European Commission is Jesuit-educated José Manuel Barroso),
        – The Security & Prosperity Partnership (trojan-horse North American Union),
        – Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC).
        – The Bank for International Settlements (The BIS is based in Basel, Switzerland; Chairman of the Board of Directors: Jean-Pierre Roth; also Chairman of the Governing Board of the Swiss National Bank),
        – Basel Committee on Banking Supervision (BIS/Group of Ten [G10] nations sub-committee; Chairman: Nout Wellink, Knight of the Order of the Netherlands Lion),
        – The International Monetary Fund (The IMF is based in Washington, DC; Managing Director: Dominique Strauss-Kahn of the Socialist International-alligned Socialist Party (France)),
        – The World Bank (Washington, DC) & World Bank Group (President: Robert Zoellick),
        – The Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD; Secretary-General: José Ángel Gurría of the Socialist International-alligned Institutional Revolutionary Party),
        Also worth noting are the internationalist bankers’ national & transnational central banks:
        – The European Central Bank (Frankfurt, Germany; President: Jean-Claude Trichet),
        – The Federal Reserve System (Washington, DC; Chairman of the Board of Governors: Ben Bernanke),
        – The Bank of England (in the City of London within the metropolis of London; Governor: Mervyn King),
        – & their interest-charging counterparts in virtually every country.
        – NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organisation – whose troops heavily comprise the UN “peacekeeping” forces; Secretary General: Jaap de Hoop Scheffer),
        ===And thus a branch of the above authoritarian world powers below;
        The United States is divided into 10 Provinces called the U.S Assistancy. This Assistancy is controlled by the Regional Assistant and his President of the Jesuit Conference of the United States based in Washington D.C. These Provinces contain whatever states within their borders and are governed by the Provincials. So right now we have Regional Assistant Soldier, James E. Grummer controlling Thomas H Smolich controlling the U.S Assistancy. Smolich is the most powerful Jesuit soldier in the United States as James E. Grummer resides in Rome. Now study the roots of Washington D.C and understand why this is the true headquarters of the Society of Jesus. Note how Georgetown University, is the most powerful military fortress of the land. Washington D.C comes from land belonging to Roman Catholics, Daniel Carroll and Francis Pope. Land once known as Rome back in 1663 property records, all part of Maryland. The same Jesuit trained, Roman Catholic, Daniel Carroll linked to phony George Washington. The same Daniel Carroll who signed the Declaration of Independence! The same Daniel Carroll whose brother Roman Catholic, John Carroll founded Georgetown University! Say hello to your secret government controllers;
        John P. McGarry, SJ
        Provincial, California
        Edward W. Schmidt, SJ
        Provincial, Chicago
        Timothy P. Kesicki, SJ
        Provincial, Detroit
        James M. Shea, SJ
        Provincial, Maryland
        Timothy M. McMahon, SJ
        Provincial, Missouri
        Thomas J. Regan, SJ
        Provincial, New England
        Mark A. Lewis, SJ
        Provincial, New Orleans
        David S. Ciancimino, SJ
        Provincial, New York
        Patrick J. Lee, SJ
        Provincial, Oregon
        G. Thomas Krettek, SJ
        Provincial, Wisconsin
        Africa Assistancy
        Central Africa, West Africa, Eastern Africa, Madagascar, Rwanda-Burundi, Zambia, Zimbabwe
        East Asia Assistancy
        Australia, China, Indonesia (Malaysia-Singapore, Thailand), Japan, Korea, Philippines, Vietnam
        South Asia Assistancy
        Andhra, Bombay, Calcutta, Darjeeling, Delhi, Dumka-Raiganj, Goa, Gujarat, Hazaribag, Jamshedpur, Karnataka (Kohima), Kerala, Madhya-Pradesh, Madurai, Patna (Nepal), Pune, Ranchi, Sri Lanka
        Central Europe Assistancy
        Austria, North Germany, South Germany, Switzerland, Hungary, Lithuania
        East Europe Assistancy
        Bohemia, Croatia, North Poland, South Poland, Romania, Russia Region, Ukraine District, Slovakia, Slovenia
        South Europe Assistancy
        Spain, Aragón, Baetica, Castile, Italy, Loyola, Portugal (Mozambique, Angola), Tarragon, Toledo
        West Europe Assistancy
        South Belgium, North Belgium, Britain, South Africa, Guyana, Upper Canada, Gallia, Maghreb, French Canada, Ireland, Malta, Near East,Netherlands
        North Latin America Assistancy
        Antilles, Central America, Colombia, Cuba, Ecuador, Mexico, Puerto Rico, Venezuela
        South Latin America Assistancy
        Argentina, Bahia, Bolivia, Central Brazil, South Brazil (Mato Grosso), North Brazil, Chile, Paraguay, Peru, Uruguay
        USA Assistancy
        California, Chicago, Detroit, Maryland, Missouri, New England, Jamaica, New Orleans, New York (Micronesia, Nigeria-Ghana) Oregon, Wisconsin

      6. EDOMS THORN Post author


        Thank you for this information, I have been aware of most these things for some time. Most people do not know that the destruction of AMERICA was being plotted and planned before there was ever an AMERICA. I wanted a man I met on the internet to produce an article much like this, so I could post it HERE. He was posting these FACTS at InfoWars.com and I thought he was able to do a good job conveying this information, but he would not respond to my request. I would like for you to work up an article for here if you are willing.

        LETS get past our misunderstanding first.

        As you asked, …”ALL CREATED BY EDOM THEN RIGHT?”…

        That is CORRECT! I provided in my presentations HERE the FACT that EDOM/Canaan is responsible for ALL ..“One World SPIRITED” Empires going back to Nineveh, were controlled and manipulated into existence by the same Demon SEED that is of CAIN”… AND that …”The SPIRIT of the N.W.O. goes back to NIMROD and those of his father CAIN/CANAAN! EDOM killed Nimrod and usurped Nimrods One World Rule, And EDOM married into the seed of Cain/CANAAN, and are the creators of the Babylonian Talmud, the VATICAN, ISLAM, the ILLUMINATI, COMMUNISM, The PROTOCOLS of the Learned ELDERS of ZION (EDOM) and Zionism!”…
        I also established that my research and OBSERVATIONS are supported by the Biblical and Historical FACTS! I provided links to other source’s that shows my research and OBSERVATIONS to be correct
        I do understand that what I have presented will take a LITTLE bit of time. I also understand that it is hard for some to admit that they have over looked these things, or that they may have been flat out deceived! I am willing to except that time has not allowed you to fully research this,. THIS is not something that most people would even think to even look at. IT has been inculcated in the minds of the people to accept what they have been told, and to question that, is “blasphemy”. However, I do not think that is your problem. You do have a mind of your own, and are not willing to just except what you are told. In your case I do believe that TIME has been your problem. I ask that you find a bit of time to give careful consideration to what I have presented concerning EDOM!

        I will address you other comments provided you address what I posted to you earlier. IT does appear that you are avoiding me. Please prove me wrong. I am an easy going person when people are willing to have an adult debate.

        NOTE: I have not visited your site yet. I had my computer assassinated and had to buy a new one after I declared that I was at war with the so called “Christian Identity Movement”. I visited this mans site after he had been attacking me. I may not have been hacked by him, but I can not take a costly chance like that again. I will be going to town next week and will go to the Library, and check it out then.

      7. g888

        Where was “Edom” and don’t fill your shorts now, because I want you to be RIGHT, It makes to much sense, so where was Edom during east coast settlement from 1663 until 1791??? 13 Colonies changed to Estates, the dropping of the Articles of Confederation for the CONjobstitution. where the Colonies surrendered their sovereignty over to the central federal authority set up by the federalists. You being a master historian and all must have read the Concessions of King john to the Pope in 1213, where the King gave the Pope England. You must have read the Law of Nations by Emmerich Vattel written in 1750, and the 1663 charters of ownership of the colonies, the 1763 Treaty with France, the 1783 Paris Treaty where the King of England dictated the peace that officially ended the revolutionary war, where the “Founders” agreed in front of the family of nations to repay the King 18 million ounces of gold, where they also borrowed 6,000 ounces of gold from the Netherlands. The agreement granted the colonists use of the land, no allodial title, meaning England still owned this continent because of debt. And still does. In the treaty the Holy Trinity is mentioned, this would be the Pope,The King of England, the Crown Bank of London, and yes little baron Rothschild was present, probably peeking from behind some curtain. So Israel isn’t around yet, neither is the CFR.. where was Edom? specifically where and who? These blue bloods doing this?? I want to include them by their proper name so you’re going to have to stop being an asshole and help me. You going to help or not?

      8. EDOMS THORN Post author

        LISTEN, I am not going forward with your “questions/DISTRACTIONS” until you WE finish our original “CONVERSATION” ARE you an intellectual COWARD and CHARLATAN?

        You call me an “ASSHOLE” when I clearly have tried to reach out to you and have an ADULT CONVERSATION!

        NOT to mention that my research and links FULLY addressed your little rant.

        Until you EDUCATE yourself concerning EDOM, you will never get to the level of understanding that is necessary for an intelligent ADULT CONVERSATION on ANY of these topics!
        I have to say, Believing “IN GOD” requires believing HIS WORD! Unless your gOD is a weak LIAR and unable to do ALL HE said in HIS word! Now lets back up and get through with our initial “CONVERSATION”

      9. g888

        Man the comments stack up weird in word press. I rarely use my word press sight called Pepi Orsini hates my freedom.. Its a storage place for me.

        Here’s what I’m trying answer you with. You’ve presented Biblical information in which you’re very astute in a particular Biblical study I am unstudied in. And it makes sense to me. I shared three articles with other researchers and filed them for my own consumption. So i cannot make a contrary or agreeing comment because I honestly don’t know. I do know enough that what you’ve said made perfect sense about this seed you’re speaking on. I’m not a closed minded dolt. And if it further identifies the enemy of GOD then it needs to be shouted from the rooftops in connection with the pecking order I showed you, Like this maybe, The Edomite Babylonian Global Power Structure… And then understanding all of their BS legalese terminologies as I do, we stack their corporations in the correct sequences of establishment. Such as, British East Indies Company, then the United States of America, then and now, the Corporation of the United States… Maybe some more people like myself catch on and turn to Scripture.. That is my hope.. So basically i was trying to pull WW into a discussion about this the other day and I screwed it up. lol…

      10. g888

        Yeah I know this part you’re right. I don’t know why I don’t remember EDOM, I think when i studied this years ago the JW bible was a perverted version. Using my 1611 KJV in researching legal terms in the english words i haven’t read it like a novel so to speak..

        But there is an older version of the Protocols, not really another version, but the comparison speaks for itself known as the “The Secret Instructions of the Jesuits..” 200 years previous of the Protocols.. I’m going to post it as a blog shortly;

        “Canaan is responsible for ALL ..“One World SPIRITED” Empires going back to Nineveh, were controlled and manipulated into existence by the same Demon SEED that is of CAIN”… AND that …”The SPIRIT of the N.W.O. goes back to NIMROD and those of his father CAIN/CANAAN! EDOM killed Nimrod and usurped Nimrods One World Rule, And EDOM married into the seed of Cain/CANAAN, and are the creators of the Babylonian Talmud, the VATICAN, ISLAM, the ILLUMINATI, COMMUNISM, The PROTOCOLS of the Learned ELDERS of ZION (EDOM) and Zionism!”…”

      11. EDOMS THORN Post author

        I have provided some of the facts with LINKS concerning EDOM creating the “JESUITS” and the VATICAN. I see a lot of people trying to make us believe that the N.W.O. plot is from the Catholic Church, but I have proven it is EDOM. There are many so called experts and other writers that have presented these distractions. EDOM is the KEY to understanding ALL that the world is plagued with. It is obvious to those that will CONNECT the dots that it is the hatred of EDOM not only towards TRUE ISRAEL, but ALL of the seed of ADAM. The Catholic Church rhetoric and OTHERS are to provide COVER for EDOM! Don’t you see that as a CHRISTIAN we have God’s word that POINTS to EDOM! Nobody BUT EDOM! SO the enemy MUST provide COVER and DISTRACT from EDOM! THINK ABOUT IT!

        READ what I have presented and understand that the KEY to understanding is found in >>>

        Genesis 25:23 …”And the Lord said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger”…


        I tittled the featured article here “EDOM: The Story Of Jacob And Esau Is Not Just A Story” BECAUSE it is NOT just a story!

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